SPEAKER_02 0:00

And then I remember seeing a video of you, you like way back in the day, um, with you and Ryan Reynolds.

SPEAKER_06 0:06

Yeah, that was we did a mint mobile commercial that never aired selfishly. I wish that spot aired because it was just doing an impression of him to him on set was very strange. I'm not the type of guy to do that, but he was like, no, no, no. I'm like, do you want it more feminine like Van Wilder? Or do you want it more serious like Deadpool? He's like, no, no, no, ham it up, ham it up, go more feminine. So I'm like, oh, this dude can laugh at himself. He's not like, oh, you can't like it was great.

SPEAKER_02 0:35

Hello, my friends. It is good to be back with you. I am very excited about our next guest, Mr. Joe Goodet. I contacted Joe through Instagram years ago. I'm talking 2019-ish, 2018. This guy, and I'm not just saying this because he's he's coming up on the show, I think he's the top of the top at impersonations, but in the voiceover world. He's working on some of the biggest cartoons, the biggest animation. He just has the ability to embody whoever he's doing. But what is really special about him is he's a dad. He's got a great heart, and he does these little bits where he uh talks about life. And it reminds me of like a throwback to like the wonder years or some sort of thing, and it gets me choked up every time. And this is the first time that him and I actually sat down and and chatted. We'd always you know DM each other over Instagram if something big was happening to him, or vice versa. He was always very supportive, and um, it's just been really cool to see a guy like Joe as talented as he is, just starting to just absolutely take off. He is a force to be reckoned with and probably one of the most talented guys out there in the business. So please welcome to the show, the AJ Buckley Show.

unknown 1:57

Mr.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

Joe Goodett.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

Welcome to the AJ Buckley Show. Don't know. He's totally kidding, and let's just seriously.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

I was a big fan of yours way back in the day, and then we just started chatting back and forth, and and here we are. Man, like you have fucking just absolutely exploded over the like it's just been great to watch, you know, and hear your voice over the years.

SPEAKER_06 2:46

I'm like, it's a weird thing. It's a weird because it's like most people know me from impressions, which is good. That's a that's a calling card. Yeah. And then your ego takes over and you're like, oh like I want them to know me. So like that's why I've been creating those like like cinematic, nostalgic voiceovers.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

Yeah, I gotta tell you, those have those got me choked up. You did one about, I think it was just recently, one about uh the last time. Yeah. The last time you see someone, the last time you don't know if it's that just that just got me.

SPEAKER_06 3:20

That like those are tough to do because So you write those in everything? So what I'll do is I because everybody wants me to do, like, I'll get DMs. Can you do this subject, this subject? So I'll write out a draft. It'll take me like an hour, hour and a half, and I'll draft it up and I'll get the meat and potatoes, and then I'll go into Chat GPT and say, Can you get rid of any redundancies for me? Because like I tend to say the five same five or six things. So it's like 90% me, and then it's 10%, what am I doing wrong? How can we really punch this up? Like, can you can you I want to say you know a certain thing about this smell, and I'll write. I go, how can we just kind of punch it up? So I'll use it as like a writing partner.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

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SPEAKER_06 5:41

So yeah, it's like there's so much that goes into it. Like, yeah, because I would talk to it, I would just talk to it for hours and hours and hours, yeah. So it would learn my personality. Like, hey, yeah, I think I'm getting an ingrown toenail. Am I freaking out? And then it'll they'll the Chat GPT will know, oh, you're a hypochondriac. Hey, listen, take a minute. So then when I write these things, it knows like, okay, you grew up in the Boston area. This is sort of your personality. And then I'm like, all right, I want to say something about it.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Does Chat GPT ever go clam chowder?

SPEAKER_06 6:16

No, you can you can ask it to change accents. I'm like, can you talk to me in a Boston accent? And it will do it. And then it reminds me, yeah. It and I'm like, this reminds me of like half the girls I dated. Yeah, yeah. So it's like it's pretty funny. It's like, so you want me to talk like this? Oh my god, Joe, you haven't, you know, you got wicked good ideas. And I'm like, uh, like, can you hey? And I'm like, hey, can you just go back to the like a normal speaking? I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah. It's are you still in the Boston area? Are you still there? No, I'm in Connecticut. Yeah, I live in Connecticut now. We moved here in 2016. Uh dude, bury me here. Like, I it's so I love it. I just started skiing last year and I'm like, this is great. Yeah, what mountain's up there? What do you go on? We got I got ski sundown, which is like 12 minutes from my house. It's in New Hartford. I'm in Canton, so it's like one town over. I can go to door to door, I can be on the lift in less than 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

It's Well, are you are you going with your kids?

SPEAKER_06 7:12

Yeah, I take my son all the time. I take my daughter. My son just turned eleven.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

You have two kids now, right?

SPEAKER_06 7:16

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My daughter's nine, my son's eleven. And uh yeah, it's it's wild. It's wild how good my son got in two years. Like he was we were doing jumps last night, and he's just his technique is great, and I'm we raced, I beat him.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

Oh yeah, because they got lights. It's oh it's the best. That's when I grew when I lived in Vancouver, that's they had uh the uh Grouse Seymour and Cyprus, and those are the three mountains that we go to after school. My dad would pick us up, drop us off, he would go get some food, and we'd do it for like three hours or so and just night ski. It was the best.

SPEAKER_06 7:53

It was like you just ripping, everything's icy because it's at night, everything froze during the day, and it's kind of getting slick at night, and the snowboarders are pushing all the powder to the outside, and you want to bomb the middle, watching for the it's dude, it's uh so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 8:07

It's a it's a crazy thing. Have you hooked up a GoPro or anything to your kids? Like the Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:12

So I get a video where they're little Oh, you do? Yeah, it's great. Yeah, I get a I got a chest pack and I can put my phone like in the chest, and as I'm going down, so like my daughter was going, and she's all over the place, so I found myself pulling it off my chest and just kind of using it as like a gimbal. But like it's that's pretty funny. But yeah, man, it's it's wild. It's oh I love ripping down the moon. It's just your brain shuts off.

SPEAKER_02 8:35

But yeah, it does, man. I've yet to take my my uh my son's, I got three kids, uh twin boys and my daughter, and I've yet to take them. Um and I grew up the crazy part I I I do feel a little guilty about it, I'm not gonna lie. Um the because I grew up snowboarding and skiing in um when we moved to South, like in California, there wasn't really that. There's like Big Bear, but it was like rocks and fake snow, and I'm a bit of a snow snob. And it's also too, it's like you don't teach your kids on like you know, rocks. You know, they'll just some people get hurt, especially my boys. They're there will be they'll they'll kill themselves. Um, and then out here, um, more inland, there's the mountains. But I just man, I I hate saying this, but I've just been either filming or something like that. And we just have my wife is not a cold person. She's like, if we go somewhere cold, she'll like she'll go with a snowman and she'll be like, I want to go to the spa, you know, or something like that. It'll be, you know, but I love I've got to get I've got to get out there. Like if there's even those those places where I think it's in Virginia or something, it's the longest sled ride in America. And it's like Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You see, did you see that? Have you seen that? And you have like brakes and stuff on your on your um on your sleds, and and like that see, that looks awesome because you literally go down the worst one of the worst parts about your toboggan is like by like the third or fourth thing, just climbing out the snow, you're beat this, you go down, it's like a little lift, but you're just ripping it. It's like too much. So it's like a 15-minute just ripping uh sleigh ride the entire way down. Yeah. So it's crazy. So, dude, I I remember when you in on Instagram, you were building your booth.

SPEAKER_06 10:13

Yeah, what I'm sitting here is a full studio. So it was a garage that we converted. I gutted it during the pandemic. I did all the demo myself. I did all the drywall, I did all the framing. I had a buddy come up because he's a contractor and he's like, let's double frame this whole thing. So every all the outside walls here are double insulated to get that soundproof. That to get that soundproof, just just a cap or whatever. Yeah, just uh just enough. So if if you know the neighbor's using a chainsaw, do they're doing tree work, I'll hear it a little bit in the main studio. But if I go in the booth next to me right now, it's just it's great. Like it's it's awesome. So, you know, you I don't have to go to the house. So you never have to leave home. No, I haven't, I don't I can't remember the last time I've been in studio, like like in person. It's just source.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

And you just have like an ISD in line or something like that.

SPEAKER_06 11:05

Yeah, they don't even use I dude, it's they don't use it anymore. It's crazy. What do they use? Source connect, source connect, really. You know, we'll we'll use Riverside every now and then. We'll use or because I I know all the all my tools, so I was just like, You guys want to do a phone patch or or a zoom? I'll record on my end. If you have any takes, hey, we really like take two, B, and C, and we like the first take of take ten. Can you just Frankenstein those things? Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, I have a dry erase in the in the in the booth, so I'm like writing everything down, then after the session, I'll edit it, send it to them, or hey, do you want the full session? So it's like you you gotta know all the tools now. There's such there's such levels to this game.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

It really is. It's a voice actor, and you know, uh a lot of people, you know, I've I've done some voice acting, not to the level of your stuff, and it's um to see what it takes at your level to to work, even just talking with the clients, you're you're producing your own sort of sessions while you're in there, which is and it sort of takes out that middleman. It's like just that tech side of stuff, being able to edit, go in there, pull it, you know, do all those things is such a um was was that a switch during COVID for you, right?

SPEAKER_06 12:14

You're like, I have to get No, so I've been doing this 20 years. So it's like I went full-time in 20, I started in 2005, and then I was building up business, and then when my son was born in 2014, I'm like, we're leaving the full-time job. I had built off enough business, and then it was you really I mean, because I was just I used to go into studios in Boston and just that is where I worked, and I'm like, no, no, no, I I need something at home so I don't have to leave. And then it just kind of was like, oh, this is a sales job. I'm calling producers, ad agencies, production companies, game developers. You know, I still have agents, but you know, 300 or 400 projects I'm voicing every year. I maybe book two through my agents, so I'm just constantly marketing myself, and it's like if it's a really good idea.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Do you commission do you commission them? Yeah, they come to the city.

SPEAKER_06 13:02

I'll I'll send it to my agents and say, They love it. It's a big job. Can you do so? It's like, yeah, I'm almost like, am I I I must be terrible because I'm not booking work through my agents, but I'm like, I'm creating the opportunities and it's a win-win. So then y'all have that conversation. Like, am I that bad? They're like, no, you're sending in solid reads. It's just a numbers game, and I get it. It's just you know, it's a saturated market.

SPEAKER_02 13:25

It's kind of the same thing for acting too, because you know, and I've been the same manager for 20 plus years and uh uh agents and whatnot, but I book more either in stuff I'm doing myself or just through somebody calling and being like, a director I work with on the show was like, hey, I'm doing this other thing. Do you want to come and do this? And it just ends up being you and you end up your cachet, I feel like as you get older in this business, is that people enjoyed working with you and they want to work with you again.

SPEAKER_06 13:55

A hundred percent. And you know, from the outside it could seem like nepotism. Oh, because no, it's like I I was it's it's word of mouth, it's referrals. It's like, hey, I fixed this guy's sink because I'm a plumber. He called his buddy, dude. You gotta hire this guy fixed it in like 20 minutes, everything was to code. It's like same thing with actors. They they know their stuff, they get in, they get out, they don't have an ego, it's like easy to work with, takes direction, boom, let's let's keep working.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

And I and I think I think for me too, I'm I feel like you're the same way. It's like I love my job. Even like going out my own and doing the podcast stuff, like uh time is so precious in the day, and especially when the kids are at school, of like what you're allocated time to do.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

And you have to make a conscious decision at one point in your life to be like, what I'm gonna put my effort into, I have to fucking love this. Because it's it's it's it's a lot of work, regardless. It's a ton of work and it's exhausting. And no one sees that in between. They just see you know the end game and the fan cons and all this sort of stuff. Yeah, but they don't see that. Yeah, exactly. The highlight reels. There's that great quote where it's like the top of the mountain is coming out, the glacier's coming out of the water, but the rest of the Right, right. You know, it's like that's it was in every high school that we we went to. You know, all at the gym. He's like, this is all they see. Um but uh but it's like it's there's so much prep and there's so much work, and then you know, I I I really feel reputation and when someone sh shows up, or you'll know when someone that you're working with is still loving what they're doing.

unknown 15:22

Right.

SPEAKER_02 15:23

You know, they just have that they're curious still, they they're they know that they can get better, they know that there's a new thing to learn. And I always feel like in your craft in the arts, there's just there's never like it's never ending what you can learn as long as you're still enjoying it.

SPEAKER_06 15:38

Right. Because then if you get miserable about it, you're like, you know, then that's because I I've had everybody has those points in their career where like, oh God, I don't want to do this, or I'm not where I want to be, and you complain, and then that energy is like it's it's it's it's you're putting that out in the universe, and then you get you know, a slump and you're like, I'll take any work I can get. And it's like, well, yeah, it's like you should be grateful for what you're getting anytime. So whether it's like a big studio project or a game or just like a local car dealership who wants to voice something, I'm like, I'll listen. If it's a minimal that I'll work for, my first job? Yeah, I don't remember. It was it was so long ago. It must have been some you know, independent thing I found off of Craigslist or something back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

But did you know you knew that you're like because it's like hard to say like I want to be a voice actor?

SPEAKER_06 16:28

Yeah, well, because it was like all my buddies were going to LA and waiting tables and they just weren't making any money, and I was like, wait a second, wait a minute. I know acting is what I want to do, but voice acting, because I was always making noises, not like in school, I wasn't noticed known as like the dude who did voices. I was just always a good mimic, and here and there you make a prank phone call, and I was like, Oh, wait, it's not just voices, you gotta be good in your own voice. So then it was like, oh, wait, I can I could work from home, I don't have to travel. So it was like it was like a cheat code, it's acting, but I don't I I'm not limited by my five, nine, 170-pound frame. You know what I mean? So it's like it then I just started getting obsessed about it, and then one thing led to another. I went to studios in Boston, like, listen, you don't have to pay me. I just want to sit in on sessions. I'll sign NDAs if I need, I just want to learn and absorb. So when all my buddies were going out drinking, which I went out drinking with them too at times, but I'm like, nah, man, I nights and weekends I gotta build up the voiceover business because I hated my job. But I did the job I had to do while I was building up income as a voice actor.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

What was that?

SPEAKER_06 17:34

I was uh I was I worked I worked uh in Boston for an insurance company just sitting in a cubicle, just kind of and I did odd jobs. I weighted tables, I did construction, landscaping, I was a magician for a while. You know, I did everything. Oh, dude, it was like I was like I was like David Blaine 2.0, but like like zooming. Did you have the hair blade? Did you have the hair? I didn't I had the I mean I was it was decent hair. I had the scruff, I would dress like David Blaine. It was dude, it was so bad. I'd have like the black t-shirt, the the uh the uh the Adidas uh shell toes and like the black dress pants like and it would be like 95 degrees in Florida and I'm like doing a party, I'm like, what are you doing, dude? What are you doing? So it's yeah, I you know I always wanted to be other people, and I was like, oh, you know, because it's like Go ahead, go ahead. No, you go, you go. No, no, I was just I was gonna say I always want to be other people.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

Is there like uh when you look back at it, is there one thing like that you were paid to do that like a uh like that you're like a random slogan of something that you were paid to say that you're like, I can't believe I'm being paid to say this. Like a buddy of mine did this condom fucking thing and he was like Durex. He was a voice Durex for the longest time. That's it.

SPEAKER_06 18:45

No, I had diarrhea. You did? I've said diarrhea, I've said diarrhea, I've said gynochomastia, I've said uh just like random stuff. Yeah, I think I don't know if it was a it I don't know if it was it had something to do with side or side effect or you have I just remember telling my kids, guys, I got to say diarrhea and got paid, and they were dying. They thought it was the funniest thing because they were like four and five at the time. I've said, I've said, I've have I I've you know, video games and every things you swear, and that's fun. But like random, like I got to say diarrhea. All right, this is great. This is great.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

And did they give you notes on like can you pull back on like the binnic beginning part of the diarrhea?

SPEAKER_06 19:28

Yeah, like or like, hey, we we don't want to go up on it because it's not a hap-diarrhea, no, it's diarrhea. Like you want to inflict down at the end because it's you know, I've uh all that stuff. I rarely remember recording sessions because you do so many, but you remember the people, but you don't remember exactly what you did. But yeah, I remember like diarrhea, diarrhea, diarrhea. Like, can you give us an A and B and a C? Oh yeah, I'll give you you know three different versions. Like, what diarrhea did they go with on that one?

SPEAKER_02 19:58

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SPEAKER_06 20:27

Yeah, that was we did a mint mobile commercial that never aired. I was just like, it never aired like selfishly, well, because I'm convinced it was my acting was so bad, but I heard from the DP, it was like, listen, it was great. It just ran over, and there was no way for them to cut it back, and it just because he shoots like he when I was there for a couple of days, I think he shot like 16 commercials between like aviation gin and mint mobile, because it's all you know, all the same company at maximum effort. So I was like, Oh, this is great. And watching him work, I'm like, dude's a total pro. And then we shot the whole thing, the whole concept was like I was the the cheap version of him so that they could save money and pass the savings on to the clients, to the customers, and it was great. He's like, Do you want to wear my shirt? Like, just because like you're the poor version of me. And I'm like, Yeah, I'm like, his shirt, that must have been a$3,000 shirt. I'm like, dude, it ain't gonna fit me. Like, you're tall and jacked, and I was like, you know, in shape, out of shape. I put that thing on, I go, Oh, I look good. Maybe I gotta spend more on cloth, like, dude, smelled good. I came home. I'm like, she's like, What did he smell like? He smelled like like cedar wood. It was like, he just smelled clean. It was just so funny. And all my buddies are like, What are you smelling right? Well, I was right next to him, but yeah, really cool dude. But I'm like, selfishly, I wish that spot aired. Because it was just doing an impression of him to him on set was very strange. I'm not the type of guy to do that, but he was like, No, no, no. I'm like, do you want it more feminine like Van Wilder, or do you want it more serious, like Deadpool? He's like, No, no, no. Ham it up. Ham it up. Go more feminine. So I'm like, oh, this dude can laugh at himself. He's not like, oh, you can't. Like, it was great. Yeah. So then, you know, we're in this trailer after we rapped. And it was fun. I shipped my own. I wasn't nervous. Because I don't, I don't get starstruck because I'm I'm a I'm an idiot. You know, I'm like, it's just, I want to learn from you. What can I do? I'm not going, oh, it's Ryan Reynolds. It was like, it was just, all right, let me learn some stuff. And then he's like, hey, that video you did. Because they had saw they've seen me on TikTok doing Ryan Reynolds impressions and stuff like this. And that's how they came up with the idea for the spot. And he's like, Do you want to recreate what you did? Except now you're doing it under pressure, and I'm right next to you. And so I started doing, I'm like, hi, how to do a Ryan Reynolds impression. First, drop your voice all the way down like this. And he's like, Nope. And then I'm like, okay. And then I run out of the trailer. So it was like, really cool, dude, you know. But again, selfishly, if that had aired, you go, okay, that's gonna, that's gonna you know, give me momentum for the next thing. And then, but it's you know, I learned to just enjoy the experiences for what they are, don't expect anything from them. And I got paid, I'm okay with that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

Yeah. Well, like, how do you find these voices, man? It's like because there's people that do impersonations and there's and they're they do they do a bunch and they're good. And then there's guys like yourself that it's like your f your whole face, you turn into the guy.

SPEAKER_06 23:20

Like you're you're like when you do I think that's that's the trick though, you know? That's the were we gonna say how I do what?

SPEAKER_02 23:27

I was just gonna say, like, like with like even when you do it's like the Michael J. Fox stuff, like uh every time you say doc, it looks like he's kids.

SPEAKER_06 23:36

It's like doc, doc, doc, it's me, it's doc. Like, you do it, doc, doc, it's me, doc. I know you did send me back, but I'm back, I'm back from the few. You know, it's because it all it is is I'm copying what he's doing. Like, I see it here, and it's so douchey, and my buddies are like, how do you get it as accurate as you can? I go, and then I'm like, this is so stupid, but hear me out. I don't see myself when I do it, I just see what they look like. Like when I'm doing Beetlejuice, it's hey, here's the deal. I don't want to do it. It's it's my you're doing Michael Keaton. Because Michael Keaton's very don't go chasing what don't go chasing waterfalls. Don't go ch it's you know, he's all here. And then I I used to do that, and you realize, oh wait, that's also Christian Bale, which is funny because they're both Batmen.

SPEAKER_04 24:24

So Christian Bale is sort of like this. He does Oh yeah. Bruce Bruce Wayne. Do you like Huey Lewis in the news?

SPEAKER_06 24:34

It's it's it's on my buddy Frank Calliendo, a fantastic impressionist, he always says, like, it's a pizza slice. It's the eyes, it's the mouth, it's that so it's same thing with Arnold.

SPEAKER_04 24:47

He he puts his chin down all the time. He says, uh Well listen, first of all, I think it is uh very important that I'm here with AJ Buckley, uh, and he's great, and I love his mustache.

SPEAKER_06 25:00

But uh, you know, like he I just see, you know, you you can see his expressions in movies and and it's it's which is weird because I do a lot of voice doubling, and that is much harder because it's like I have to make the face, but I have to sound like how they sound in that scene. It's like when you when you when you're doing uh looping for yourself, if you did a pro I'm like, how did I what did I sound like? So like you know, hey, we got pickups you have to do for this commercial. I'm like, I don't remember doing the commercial, so they give me a reference file, and I'm like, now I have to do an impression of myself. That's even harder because I like I might have had a cold that day. I was nasally, I had some siblings.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

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SPEAKER_01 26:26

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SPEAKER_02 26:43

All right, Jason, thank you so much. Thanks for being a sponsor of the show. Um, make sure you go to www.purerx.co. Go do it now. I promise you. By summertime, you're gonna be so shredded, you're gonna be wearing a spado, and that package yours is gonna be looking glorious. I don't know. It's just a lot of things. I did a voice thing once for a voice match for Guy Pierce. Which was I was it was again, I don't remember what movie. It was for all the uh uh it was the uh the the the clean version of the swearing, like you're freaking kidding me. You know, like all the anytime he swore. I can't remember what movie it was. Was it Memento or something like that? But I did his thing, which was a trip. It was like a random thing. The guy was I was in a booth and he was like, Hey, can you just read a couple of these things? He's like, I think you could do this, ended up doing it, but it was like kind of a surreal thing. Um, but the I I've always found like there's nothing worse. I'm sure we've gone through it, it's like when you do a scene as an actor and it's raining, you know, we're gonna have to fucking ADR this entire thing.

SPEAKER_06 27:44

Plane goes by or yeah, something.

SPEAKER_02 27:47

And it's always these emotional fucking scenes. You know, there's something it's so hard, and you're like, sometimes I'm like, I why do we like just leave it? Like just it's it's just in that headspace again.

SPEAKER_06 28:00

There's no it's impossible. It's like that was you were and I have to like summon up the you know the tears and all that stuff. Like that's why I like I like creating my own stuff. So I'm like, all right, I'm in the moment. Did I get it? Post it. Like when I tear up with those, with those silly, I mean I they're not silly, but like to me they are. It's like I'm just trying to evoke emotion in the people watching, but when I'm reading this stuff, I I I probably do two takes of of those things and post them. Because like maybe I didn't like how I said a certain line or whatever, but you just just just the text. I think it's easier getting more emotion while you're reading text because you're following it along, it's a story, rather than hey, I'm off book and I'm memorizing stuff and you get to the part in the scene. It's much easier for voice acting, I think. But I'm like, oh good, if I if I have to just redo one line, it's not the part where I was tearing up, fine, because it's so hard to fake, you know, choke it up when you're it's it's so hard, man.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Yeah, you'll get like one good take of like where the emotion comes, and then you're like, where did that go? I gotta how to get right back and it hits you, and then it's like you know, yeah, it's hard, and then you're forcing it to to get out of it. What was it like with your wife when you first met her? Were you were you like were you were you pulling the voices out early to to charm her?

SPEAKER_06 29:14

I mean, I pulled a deck of cards out, maybe, but like it was like you know, it was yeah, I can't. It's so we were in a bar in Boston and we went to uh Fanuel Hall, Quincy Market. That's the most touristy place, but it was in public. I didn't know if she was an axe murderer or anything like that. Same thing with her. But I remember the first thing we said, we always used to go to Fanual Hall because you knew who the tourists were because they there's cobblestones everywhere. And if somebody's wearing stilettos or wedges, they're not from around here because they're rolling ankles as they're walking it. Like so it was like, you know, I did a couple of card tricks to my wife when when we first met and stuff, but it was just like, yeah, it wasn't I I I never used the voices or the card tricks or the stupid stuff to get, I was just always myself, you know, and like that's I this that's been the hardest thing for me is like I I'm around a lot of actors and voice actors at Comic Cons and stuff, and everybody's always on. And to me, I it it's so exhausting, and I'm not calling out people who do it, that's their thing. But for me, people like you must do impressions at drive-throughs and in public. I if people want me to do, that's fine, that's different. Uh but like I'm just me. I'm I'm a dad, I coach baseball. It's just a job. I love what I do, it's what I what I always want to do, but I'm like, listen, it's like you can't be on all the time because it is exhausting walking around like Arnold all day, you know, or or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Those cons, it's hard too, because you want to give the most to the fans that you can possibly give. But it is it is one of the toughest things because you don't want to let anybody down.

SPEAKER_06 30:54

You don't want to that's the w that's the number one.

SPEAKER_02 30:58

And you're we're so lucky to ever get invited to one of those things. Like, oh, you want to see me get my graph? I always am always dumbfounded. I'm like, you guys want my my thing? Right. Uh you know, you want me to oh okay, and and and then you hear stories from them from them like how like something you did affected them in their life or like they really connected with something. You're like, oh shit, like you know, this little bubble that we live in, and you go to these things and how important it is. But I will be more exhausted out of doing a con weekend than anything, any other uh uh uh job.

SPEAKER_06 31:30

Because you're just because your voice is shot. You're everything is gone. Your voice, because you're like doing quote after quote, and like I will do it, but then when you're back in your hotel room at like 10 o'clock at night, you're like I have no like you're what you sound like Michael Rooker. You're walking around sounding like Rooker.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

I want to hear the story about Rugger. So we were doing SEAL team to pilot, and Rooker comes in and he's playing the uh he is it's at the beginning of the the the in the pilot, and he's gotta he's got like five lines. Yeah, and he's gotta he he's gotta uh discipline um uh uh Max Terriot's character, he played Clay. And he'd go, his line was something like he was like, he was like uh Spencer uh you screwed up today. You gotta get back to it. And he'd go, what's my line? Sorry, sweetheart, what's mine? They go, and they go, okay, give me a second, give me a second. Fuck. And he goes, Spencer! Is that his name Spencer? Okay, give what's go again, start again. And they say action. And then he goes, he go, you screwed up. Fuck. Dude, I swear he had five lines. We were there for an hour, hour and a half. He's like, Man, I took a sleeping pill last night and I kiss overslept, I'm jet lagged or something. We're like, all right. Like he just he just could, but it was him screwing up for 30, 40 minutes. He finally then when he nailed it, he fucking absolutely fucking nailed it. I mean, that guy would that's a guy that like has done some like awesome roles. It's been he's been him. Like he's he's the same guy in person. Um I'm sure you've seen him at conventions and stuff, like, but yeah, yeah. He's the same guy in person as he's the same guy on the thing. He just kind of came out of his trailer. He's like, ugh, yeah. Like, all right, this guy's a bit of a rock star, man. I kinda I kind of want to hang out with him.

SPEAKER_06 33:17

Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah, he's larger than life. It's just voices alone. Like when you can recognize somebody from their voice alone, I'm like, oh, God bless him. Because like they just have that distinct voice.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

What do you think separates the ones who who make it and then the ones who just quit? Like there's and we don't so many talented people and then Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:35

I just think it's stubbornness and like I I I you just get obsessive about it. Like get you gotta be unden I mean, there's a lot of people who don't have a lot of talent who just make it, and that good for them. That's they they just it's it's it's perseverance. Don't give up. Like, because it's it's the one thing I've noticed for the people who always make it, it's a it's a marathon, dude. It's not a sprint, and it sounds so cliche to say that, but like I've been doing this 20 years, I'm just starting to like really get bigger roles. Like I've done a couple of projects for Warner Brothers and Disney last year, and that was like they came to me. And it's like, holy cra, and like nobody knows about it, you know, and I'm cool with that, but it's like I don't give up. I'm all I probably send 40 emails a day. I probably call, I'm on LinkedIn. It's like, what can I do to get in front of these people? And how can I use social media to leverage what I'm doing? So it's like I don't everybody because I have a pretty big following on TikTok. I don't make any money off of social media. I wish I did. I wish I could figure out a way to leverage that and stuff like that. I've been trying.

SPEAKER_02 34:46

I'm just trying, I'm just trying to figure that out too, man. I'm just like, you know, it's actually Sean here, Bruce Sean, who was like, dude, you gotta monetize this. I'm like, how? He's like, this button, this button, and I'm like, and then I'm like, I I don't I'm so bad with tech stuff on like the because you go into the back of Instagram and say, press this, this, and I'm like, I I don't know. I'm like, I'm and then what happens is because I'm I've got fat fingers, I'll press the wrong thing and I'll be looking at it, and then 30 minutes has gone by and I've accomplished nothing, and then I'll just I'll just walk away. I'll like, you know, I I don't think it's and then Sean would be like, did you figure that out? And I'm like, no, no, it's not, I don't think I I I gotta do it.

SPEAKER_06 35:24

It's not your brain, it's the fingers. It's okay. It's the sausage fingers, you know.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

It's you know, but is is there a role that you've like a dream role that you've always wanted to do? You know there's places you can go, you can take your truck, you can get things done, and you you you leave and you're like, eh, it was good. It was good. I was introduced to Total Off-Road and more about a year and a half, two years ago when I got my Ford F-150 tremor. And let me tell you something. First of all, it's like a family, and people say the family, but these are some of the nicest people you will ever meet. TJ and Dan and the rest of the crew at Total Off-Road Moore Charleston are some of the best guys. I had my sister, her tire blue, she happened to be outside the store. I I literally called Dan. I was like, my sister who's got my mom has got to go to a doctor appointment, they're outside your store. Can you help? They literally saved her everything. Like these are just great people. So if you're in Charleston, you need something done with your truck, if you're anywhere in America and you need something done in your truck, they have stores across the country. This is the best place to go anytime, anyplace. It's a family, it's good people, they do good by you. And uh, we all work hard for our money, and we put something into our truck that we love or whatever we're building, we want to make sure that it's done right. And these guys at Total Off Road and more, they do it right.

SPEAKER_06 36:44

Dude, I would just love to start in a Pixar movie. That's like the end goal. And we're we're uh I'm working with uh a studio right now where we're pitching a movie and we have an idea and and and we've I posted all over social media. It's called Domino Danger, and like that's like the first thing like we created to like get in front of I just want it, I want a big studio theatrical release so that it's like there you go, I I can live forever in that. I'll be completely happy with that. Something my kids can watch, something that that you know audiences can see and go, okay, that was really cool. Because I was watching the uh, you know, because you record line after line after line, yeah. You don't know how it's gonna get edited, things get cut, and then when the director uh showed me a cut of it before we we we released it as a teaser on social media, I'm watching it in my living room, lights off, because it's it's fully produced. I'm like, just that six-minute clip could go in the theater and it and people would get their money's worth. Just because the sound design, the animation, my my my work, I'm like, wow, he made me sound really good. Like it was like this is great. Yeah. And at the end, it's got a time travel kind of you know element to it. And I'm just sitting there, I didn't see it coming because I didn't see that part of the script. And I was just I'm sitting there, tears pouring down my eyes. I'm like, this is like, oh, this is like my my childhood dream. It was just I want to be able to see that and have people just go eat popcorn, have the pu have the popcorn buckets of the characters, because that's like the big rage right now. So like my character popcorn, but like I just I I would love to do a big studio like that or a baseball movie, man.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

I had a I had the the the very huge honor I got to do a Pixar movie, and it was Oh yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_06 38:30

So you had Sam Elliott, dude. I've I've yeah, good.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

Yeah, the kid dinosaur. And and it the but going on to with the the kid in the in the in the theater, it was the very first, so the premiere was the very first movie that my daughter ever saw. So she she's like so so about a oh dude, I'll get choked up thinking about this. So we we like leading up to it, they sent the toy over with my voice in the toy, right? And um, and every time you press the the summit, go, Hey there, little buddy. And um, so I'd hand it to her and she uh would talk, but she hadn't quite connected that the thing, and then she saw these other books they opened and all that sort of stuff. So we show up to the premiere, and um she does the carpet and the whole bit, and she doesn't know what's going on, right? But we go in and the movie starts, and then I'm looking at her and she sees the thing. She knows she knows the dinosaur because she was obsessed with dinosaurs. She's looking up the thing, and then she sees Nash come up on the screen, and she's like, She's like, hears the voice, and she's looking at me, and then she's like, she's like looking at me, and then she's like, Daddy? She's like, Daddy, is that you? I'm like, Yeah, she's like, You're a dinosaur. And I'm like, I'm the dinosaur. She's like, and she literally goes, Oh. And I was like, how is that? I just started getting a choke. It was one of the coolest moments ever. My wife was there, my mom, my sister.

SPEAKER_06 39:42

You don't have to ever work again. Dude, that is freaking awesome.

SPEAKER_02 39:45

And it was those, and I still have like the toys, like my the twins now have the plastic dinosaur. But again, it's just those are the things that like as as on the hardest days that we've had, the days that the ups and downs were we're we're rubbing, you know, wooden nickels together just to figure things out, or like, you know, people are like, what are you gonna do? So like you're like, I'm gonna be an actor, you know, people are like, okay, well, I hope that works out for you, but you know, it's like when you get moments like that, a hundred percent of a hundred percent I take every single bad day again to have that so that that would happen.

SPEAKER_06 40:22

Just that, yeah. Same thing.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

And it's and it's a special thing because I'm I'm I I feel like we've got a lot in common with that. Like, my family is the most important thing to me. Being my a dad is the greatest role I've ever had in my life. I wouldn't trade it for anything. I love that I get to be home and I like this is at built in my house. So I usually just travel to Nashville to go do it. And we we just finished building it here, which has been so great. You know, after I'm done with you here, I'll go pick up the kids from school, come back. Yeah, you know, but those times and again, like that's that that I was listening to the that part the thing you did about you don't know when it's the the last time. When it's the last time.

SPEAKER_03 40:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:59

Yeah, like I I'm gonna play that on when we cut the show just so people have get context of what it is. Oh, it's but it's so true, man. It's like there's there's so much work, and I get I'm such a I I I have to check myself. Like my wife will stay on me, like, I'll get so wrapped up with things that I'm so stressed out about or whatever, that yeah, I'm not present to what is happening. Like my kids are just about to come home or something's going on, and I'm just wrapped up. But in my mind, I know I'm trying to do what the best I can because I'm trying to provide and I want to get it done. But then just to be like my sons were like, like yesterday I went and threw we threw the football out in the uh out in the road for about an hour after, and it was like it calmed me right down. It was like the best thing in the world. My son caught this play that we were working on, you know, the twins, they started kicking the shit out of each other. It was awesome. Yeah, you know, and I just got to break for it, but it's like those moments, again, you don't know when it's gonna be the last last time. You don't know, and it's so important just to have these like little reminders. And I was listening to that like that voiceover. It's one of the best written pieces of copy ever.

SPEAKER_06 42:04

Oh, I appreciate it. So good. Because I I left a line out and I because I couldn't get through it. I recorded it once before, and I'm just like, I like started, I was like, dude, I can't I was like choking up. There was a line, uh the last time your dad picks you up, and you're you're you're wriggling trying to get down, because him, he just wants to hold you, and you you're either too heavy or you just yeah, you just don't want him to pick you up. I'm I couldn't get through that. Same thing with that baseball monologue. I'm like, I think it it ends with the now um, you know, I I now I'm on the other side of the fence coaching my own kids, and like seeing them experience that their first pop fly, their grounder, like for them to experience that, it's the greatest gift I could have. Because it's like you want to pass down things to your and I I started writing those as just an outlet for people to see. It was a it was a selfish exercise, to be honest. I'm like, I want to create something that can that can very, very reminiscent of like the opening to the sand lot or stand by me voice over or something about it. That's what it feels like this could be, and then everybody's like, you kind of sound like this, this, and I'm like, and then you get in your head, like, no, no, I want to be me. But I'm like, I just happen to have a nostalgic voice. Like Yeah, it's stand by me that's I wanted to do it as Richard Dreyfus, and like everybody's like, Oh, don't do that one. I wanted to do it so bad. But did he actually just it was at that point he realized, you know, because Richard Dreyfus sort of has a voice, like like, you know, it's very, you know. But then if I lean into my voice too much, people go, Oh, it's good fellas. And I'm like, Oh, I sound like Ray Leote, he's a good guy, he's a good fella. You know, I'm like, I can't so like I have to live, I have to live. So I started to write one. They call him Frankie Carbon, or or or what was the other one? I started writing like I I came up with like you know, good fellas. Fellas, but it's like an HOA community, you know. Like I was so I started writing that. I'm probably gonna record that today. I was trying to come up with I wrote down 20 ideas and then I typed in a chat GPT. Give me two more ideas that in the same vein of what I wrote. And she came up with some funny stuff, and I'm like, ah, I'm gonna keep mine. But like again, you want to use it as like a writing partner, not like create this, because then there's nothing of you inside that AI. You gotta use it as a tool. But then I started to do all that, and then my and then you get comparison. Dude, your voice, you're you're you're you you sound like Michael J. Fox or Ryan Reynolds or this, this, this, and then it that gets in my head, and I'm like, uh it because I do. I just naturally have my upper register when I get excited is is Michael J. Fox. It just was always like that. So I'm like, how can I just live in this normal speaking voice? And then that's how I kind of go into it. But you you gotta be a chameleon. I get it, but I'm like that ego. It's like, dude, I just want to be me.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

Yeah, it's that's that's that's one of the hardest sort of that sense itself. Just going back to that piece that you wrote too, and with the last time, I and I hope it's okay if I bring this up. If not, I can I kind of I I because I I only threw in the stories. I you had your twin brother that you lost. Yeah. And I I when I heard that, I was like, I wonder if that's has to do with you wrote that with your own.

SPEAKER_06 45:20

Oh, there's a lot. There's a because I, dude, I went into therapy for a little bit after he passed away because it was like that screwed me up so because identical twins. So I saw fraternal twin boys, so yeah, I couldn't. So I knew you had twin boys. It's it's yeah, it's it's like I saw myself dead in his living room because like I I showed up to his house on that last day. He had already passed, they waited for me to get there, and I just it it because like I was with them a lot at the end. I would drive three hours back and forth each way from Connecticut to Boston to to to go check in on him and spend the day with him. And like I was exhausted, but I'm like, how does his wife and kids feel? My mother and father, who were like, they must be exhausted, and like just to see him deteriorate, yeah, it was glioblastoma, it was brain cancer. So it's like it's like he went and he was okay for a little bit as because that's what happens. It's like you're in remission for a little bit, then it just comes back with a vengeance. And then he was he couldn't walk for the last three or four months, his whole left side was paralyzed, and just seeing him just dead in a bed and then in the casket, I'm like, it freaked me out because I'm like, that's me. I'm literally seeing my it was like it was like uh, you know, a Christmas carol of Christmas future. I'm going, Oh, that's my future. That's that's so it was weird. But the the the silver lining was I saw I've never seen so many people show up for a wake in a funeral. Never. And they had all these great stories. A couple of kids say, you know, because he worked for Jet Blue and he had some good perks and he could fly people out and stuff like that, and he was a mechanic. And I heard stories like, you know, me and me and my wife had a miscarriage. Your brother out of his pocket flew us to Florida just to get away and just to relax. Another kid we grew up with, he was on hard times. He was he was an addict for a little bit. He's getting on his feet, couldn't afford anything for Christmas for his kids. My brother out of his own pocket bought his kids bikes. And I and I was I'm sitting there pouring buckets when I'm listening to these stories. So it's like all right, he wasn't he wasn't that much of an asshole. That's a good, you know what I mean? Because you know, you your brother, you you bust balls, you you grow apart, but then like towards the end, we really got close. I'm like, wow. So it's like if half of that many people show up to my funeral, I I did okay. So it was like, but it's just uh those those writing all those stuff, it was a way to to hold on to the past. You know, it was a way to just kind of like, you know, what what would it be like if I could just spend another day with him? And then I'm like, all right, well, how can I how can I get that same emotion out of people? Because I want these I try not to be so specific about when I'm coming up with the ideas. I want it to be universal. So it's like if I write something too specific, I go, all right, how can we make that universal? Okay, all right. Or and then you write like a song lyric, or or you know, remember we used to listen to Nirvana or the Spice Girls or InSync, and people are like, I never listen to InSync, but you get what I'm saying. You listen to music, right? So it Yeah, oh dude, I'm a big InSync fan.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

So Yeah, come on, man.

SPEAKER_06 48:22

Uh but it's you know, you try to come up with all that stuff, and then you you know, if if people get value out of it, cool. But then, you know, in the back of my head, I'm like, oh maybe, maybe, maybe some you know, brand will see this. Oh, we could use this guy. Because, you know, we all we all try to get more work and it's a constant struggle, like going back to what you were saying, like you're paying attention to the career.

SPEAKER_02 48:44

Yeah, and I but I think your honesty, and again, not chatting to you before this, like the the ones that have come, I think if you're a human being or your dad, or you or you even you're the son that hears the baseball one, like you you you hit certain notes. And what I love about it is it's just a simple, you know, and I I don't think there's a lot of guys out there that can do what you do with that, but can tell a narration of something and in that one minute take you on a visual memory in your own head and really take you back. It's almost like you can smell the the baseball glove, you can like the way you were describing the different things and oh it's just like it's it's so well done and stuff. And I had a question there just with like losing it because I always think about this with the with my twins. They understand each other better than like they have their own language. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we had the same. And I always wonder it's like, you know, like with twins, they like they have this sort of dialogue that only they understand with each other. Like, was there something with your brother that he only understood like he was the only person that understood this certain thing about you?

SPEAKER_06 49:58

Yeah, yeah, it was just and it was it's not that I can describe. It's just something that you know you you feel, you yeah, you had that feeling. Because I I what what I had, I had such survivor's guilt when he had passed because the sicker, and it was it was like a pendulum. It was the sicker he got, the more successful I got in my career career, and I was so guilty about that for so long. I'm like, oh, he's losing it was like he was losing his life, all of his energy, and it was like kind of passing it on to me. And I I hated that feeling, and I'm like, why, why did I survive? Why did he get brain cancer? And I didn't. I was so mad for the longest time. I'm like, it's not fair. And then like every time I would see my parents or or or my sister-in-law, I'm like, do they are they mad at me? Or you know, it was just a weird feeling, but like he was, yeah, he was he was he was always bigger than me, anyways. In football, he would knock the snot out of me at football practice. I'd be on like the I'd be on like the little all the practice squad, he'd knock my block off, my helmet would go flying. All right, good hit, Charlie, good hit. So it's like he was always bigger than me. So then again, it was just like he was the bigger one. Why, why did, why did he get sick? If anybody, it should have been me. You know, so it was just but yeah, back to that language. We could, we could, we could, yeah, we could know what what each other's thinking. I'd call him out of the blue, you good? Yeah, I mean, I'm feeling crap. You know, he would just know, you know, or I wouldn't know. And my knee swelled up when he had knee surgery. That was a weird thing. He had a total knee construction. My knee was swollen. I'm like, did you just he's like, Yeah, dude, I had to go in and get scoped. I didn't tell you. I'm like, it was it was so weird. But it was we were mirrored twins. So I I I don't know if Harvard University did a study on us. We were we were born in Boston, and uh we were mirrored twins. I'm a lefty, he's a righty, I was born legally blind in this eye, he was born legally blind and that eye. We had like strabismus, they popped, they tried to fix them, and then that was weird, but our dental records were identical. Our our we had cavities in the same teeth. Um I hurt my right knee, he hurt his left knee. It was very strange, but he always got hurt more, and that's the weird thing. Any any sickness, he would get it worse. Our wisdom teeth came out, he got bad swelling. I didn't get swelling. It's like he died, I survived. So then you're freaking out. You're like, how much longer do I have? You know, so it's there was too many, too many similarities on that. So I'm like, yeah, that like I said, therapy was good to talk about that, but I'm like, how I I can't talk about it anymore because you just it's just you know, it is what it is. It's the things happen. I it had nothing to do with me, you know. So Do you dream about him? No, that's the weird thing. I feel him when I'm awake. So it's like I I I I never feel like Billy Bob Thornton had a good quote, like when his brother passed away, he's never fully happy or or fully sad. He's just kind of like a state of melancholy. And that's how I feel. Like I just yeah, I'm just like kind of like, meh. Uh uh, you know, I I I I feel half dead. Like I feel like part of me 100% died. But then you realize, all right, I gotta keep going, make him proud. Hopefully he's watching over me, laughing his ass off at some of the stuff I do, or like, you know, you're you know, I'm I'm not doing bad, you know. But yeah, you know, it's it's always in my head. I think about him all day, all the time. Yeah, I'm like that.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

When you don't, you're like, uh. Yeah. My dad and I were super close, and he's just always I'm always but it's it's crazy. I will I will know it's him. I'll honestly just get a feeling, it's always like a feeling, and I'll be like, What's up, dad? And I'll talk to him in the room. Yeah. Or even like when my boys are there, they're like, Who are you talking to? I'm like, I I think Papa Joe's here. Like, and they know him through me always talking about him. So before we go to bed, and you know, and I tell them the stories of Papa Joe, and Papa Joe's the guardian angel now, and like he's sort of this mythical, you know, superhero to them. They're like, you know, if you you know, just if we have any bad dreams, just ask Papa Joe to he'll take care of the bad guys and you know beat him up in their dreams. But it's like a crazy thing how through his memory of how I talked to him, my kids have a relationship with them. Like there's that there's pictures all over the house, and when they see them, they're like, Hey, Papa Joe. Ranger one day told me he's like, he's like, you know, I remember meeting Papa Joe. I'm like, You you were uh you weren't born yet. He goes, No, up in heaven. He came up and he talked to me and he said, Yeah, I was coming to the family. Yeah, like this, he was going to send you to you. I was like, Really? And the way that he said it, and then he just like picked up his transformer and like walked away.

SPEAKER_06 54:34

Yeah, like it was just, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:36

I was I get that makes you believe even more.

SPEAKER_06 54:41

You're like, dude, there's gotta be more to this, man. There has to be, because why would a kid make that like my son has done that because we named him after my middle name after my grandfather, William Richard. And Richard, he was he he was um uh uh Korean War vet and just a great guy. He was in the arts, he would have been an actor. I'm like the first person in my family to like make a living as an actor, and that made him so proud. So it's like when my son was born, we used to call him Dickey, his his nickname was Dickey Doo, my grandfather, Richard. Dick, Dickey Doo, what's up? Dickey Doo, what's going on? And my son was just in the driveway one day playing with his trucks, and he's like, Dickey doo, Dickey Doo. I go, because we never said it. I go, What are you Dickey Doo? I go, What why are you saying that? Oh, that was my nickname. I'm like, what? And I'm like, did you hear cousin Corey say that? Because Corey would say it all, but my my son never met my cousin Corey at that point. He's like, no, Corey's not my cousin, Corey's my grandson. And I'm like, I I lost it. I'm like, I was like, what? I called my dad, like, do you won't believe what what Will just said. It was so we were freaking out. So I'm like, there's gotta be more to this because there was no prompt. We had never talked about it like that.

SPEAKER_02 55:57

And I think kids too are more tuned into it, you know? Yeah. Like they're more tuned into just the different things, like the imaginary friends I had. I there was actually, I think it was Ryan Reynolds who did that that movie about the imaginary friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, duck that got me. That like, do you find more now as a dad, you cry at everything?

SPEAKER_06 56:16

Dude, I cry at commercials. Like, I cry. Like even in even in I don't even cry at anything like that. I'm like, all right, whatever. That's my my I can't stand myself. But like when when outside I find myself, what did we it was when my son was born, it was the first night we could go out for a date. My mother-in-law was watching Will at the time, and we I was bawling at a preview for uh I think it was Chappie. It was like the robot movie, and I'm sitting there and it's and I'm going, like bawling, and it wasn't emotional, it was like it had to do with relationships, but like I'd rather watch something and bawl my eyes out than laugh. Like I'm like, and I'm not trying to like make myself cry on purpose, but it's like it's good because I didn't cry a lot before I was a dad. And now, but dude, it's the stupidest thing. I'll watch something, I'll cry. Like Forrest Gump, I could just watch over and over, just ball at the end. And I'm like, oh god. Or or or even some comedies, you go, Oh, that's a good relationship between the two of them. And like you find yourself like teary-eyed, like, oh, that's a but yeah, like just the stupidest stuff I'll cry at now, you know?

SPEAKER_02 57:34

Yeah, and you you always have that little laugh before you like your wife's like, Are you crying? Like, no, I'm not it's you totally you totally start to laugh, and then she's like, You're crying right now. It's you're you're watching American Idol and you're buffing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 57:47

Or when Glenn got Glenn Glenn got killed off the walking dead by Negan. Oh I lost it. I was because you get so attached to these guys, I'm like, It's so crazy. And you sit, or or it's like the quiet cry is probably my favorite, where you're just sitting there and you're you're stone faced, but you're just pouring buckets, and you're just like, all right, I need to feel this. All right, I'm still alive, I'm still free. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_02 58:11

Yeah, so don't don't just if you feel like crying, cry. But then I'll go to myself and I'll just be like, I'm like, I don't want to do that right now, I don't want to do it. It's a crazy emotion. Now with your voiceover and stuff, what what is like is there the because you've done I was like it's crazy how much stuff you've done. Um, but is there the role because I've I've had roles where I booked the job and I had no idea the ride that I was about to go on. Like, I just th I just thought it was a job. And then is there a character or voice that you've done that you've been like, oh shit, this is turned into something? Like this is a monster fans.

SPEAKER_06 58:42

Probably Five Nights at Freddy's, because it's like the video games. I never even heard of Five Nights at Freddy's before. And this was probably 2018 when I got I I auditioned for like 10 roles on a casting thing, and then I got three of them, and I'm like, all right, cool. And then I got the job, I recorded, and then the fans have a way of finding things out before like the actors do. And I just saw all over the internet Joe Godet was he he's he's Rockstar Foxy, Funtime Foxy, Mr. Hippo, and the game. And I went, wait, what? How did they know this? And that was like the role to get me into Comic Cons. And then people really knew my my work from that. I'm going, yeah, whoa, this is this is huge. Because my buddy had called me. He's like, dude, you're in FNAF. I go, what is FNAF? He's like, Five nights at Freddie. I'm like, oh, but what is it? It's blah blah blah. He goes, You ever go to Target? You ever go to Walmart? Yeah, you ever see the figure? Oh, the figures. All right, I get I just I wasn't in that. I'm not a gamer. Yeah, I don't really follow a lot of that stuff, and that that's such a letdown to fans sometimes. And I feel like, guys, I'm sorry. I love creating them. I just I'm a dad. I coach baseball and soccer and softball, and I'm a dad and I uh run my own voiceover business. I I don't have a lot of time to to do that. I wish I did. And they're like, so you never played. I'm like, I've seen I've seen clips of the stuff. Is does that count? And then you feel like you're letting them down. But people really know me. It doesn't make me mad because I get that's what they know. That's that's their world. I get it. But like there'll be times I'll be posting something about my brother passing or the anniversary or whatever, and trying to be a you know, a sentimental post, and they'll be like, What would Mr. Hippo say about that? I'm like, guys, I'm just do you know what I mean? And and but in my head, I'll get really mad, but I'm like, I'm not gonna call him out. I'll just like, oh no, it's okay. My name's Joe. You can call me Joe. And I I I I have such a hard time just giving people that leeway because they don't know. It's it's and they're leaving with the best intention.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:45

They're leaving with their best intention. 100%. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:48

And people don't know me. They know me from conventions because my stupid face is behind me on a banner with the cat. That's it. That's the only reason. And I'm and I'm okay with that. I'm 100% okay with that. But it's it's led to more work, which is great. So I can say, you know, hey, I've done this, this, this. Okay, or this guy has okay, this guy's got a track record of doing cool stuff. So it's not like he's just some dude with a microphone in his bathroom trying to trying to make a living.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

No, dude, you it's it's and even hear to hear more that like the amount of hustle that you do on your own is is is really refreshing. You know, I I think a lot of people out there that you know the again, I always go back to the the amount of work and the hours and the and you know, even to get to, you know, because it's 2018 you did Five Nights at Freddie, you said? Yeah. So that was you've been doing it for 20 odd years, grinding too.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:42

Yeah, I've been yeah, this is and this is my this is my twelfth year full time. Yeah, I'm on my twelfth year full time, which is wild to think.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:51

That's like and that's with your voice, you are getting paid to to create characters and not just that, but to like evoke emotion out of people to like that is a a skill. And it's like the same with with acting. It's like there's like a that's a 0.01% in that in that thing that can make it as a living. So if if if there was a piece of advice, knowing what the statistics are, because when I look back at when I w started I wanted to act, yeah, you couldn't tell. I just was like, I'm doing it. I I was like, there was I didn't see any of the roadblocks. I didn't see even when I was told it wasn't to get it or that, and I got more nose than ever. And everything that I've ever had has been a fucking fight. I've had to everything, every roll, everything. Yeah, it's never come easy. But I'm I'm happy about that because I if it came easy, I don't think I'd appreciate where I am right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:40

I'll be saying Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:42

So is there a person out there, if there's somebody listening that is like you 20 years ago, like what you what you would tell them that's ahead?

SPEAKER_06 1:02:53

Yeah, just I it's it's gonna suck. The the the the good outweighs the bad a hundred percent. One hundred percent. It's a numbers game. Make sure you have the talent. You got it, you you have to know how to record, you have to know how to edit. You're running your own business. So get that education. It doesn't have to be college, it can be YouTube, it can be what just figure out what you want to do and and treat it like a business because 90% of what I do is emails, calls, get more training, work on your social media stuff because you do, you have to have a face out there to go along with this. But but it's gonna be mostly clerical work. It's gonna be mostly, you know, long nights, uh, long weekends, long hours, long days of no, no, thank you. Take me off your email list, no, thank you. It's that one yes that you just gotta remember. Okay, how did I feel when I got that yes? How did I feel when I recorded it and got that check? Remember that because that's gonna keep you going. It's gonna snowball. But it's a it's a numbers game. Too many people think it's just I'm gonna make some voices. It's like you you gotta the the training is the most important thing, but strap in, do your best, and just just you you gotta have so much balls to just keep going. Because it's I I I probably cry three or four times a month thinking I'm useless. I'm you, I don't feel useful. And then when you work, you're like, oh no, I'm useful, because I remember what the director said, or the producers. Okay, we're we're we're we're making stuff for people to consume, to to to get emotion about something, to to we're making people money. Voiceover is usually the last part of the the equation, but know what you want to do, and just it it's it's so cliche, just don't give up. It's it's uh it's it's it's so tough, but just just don't give up.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:51

Yeah. What's next for you? What's on the what's on the chopping block? What's coming out?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:55

What do we got? NDAs. You go I hate NDAs. You're like, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:02

I mean, yeah, we're just trying to get a move.