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What happens when trauma becomes purpose?

In this powerful episode of The AJ Buckley Show, hosted by AJ Buckley (Seal Team, CSI: New York, Supernatural...) sits down with Travis Howze—a man whose life journey has taken him through some of the toughest roles imaginable: U.S. Marine, firefighter, law enforcement officer, stand-up comedian, and now a Post Traumatic Purpose Motivational Educator.

Travis opens up about the realities of service, trauma, mental health, and finding purpose after the uniform. Through humor, honesty, and hard-earned wisdom, he shares how he transformed pain into a mission to help others rediscover their light.

The conversation dives into:
• Travis Howze’s journey from U.S. Marine to firefighter and law enforcement officer
• How stand-up comedy helped him process trauma
• The concept of Post Traumatic Purpose
• Mental health struggles faced by veterans and first responders
• Finding meaning and direction after service
• His book “Create Your Own Light” and the message behind it

This episode is raw, honest, and inspiring—especially for veterans, first responders, and anyone searching for purpose after hardship.

If you enjoy deep conversations about resilience, faith, purpose, and personal transformation, this episode is for you.

0:00 Intro
3:10 Welcome to South Carolina
5:55 You have to Kiss a Fireman
7:35 Have you been to Thailand?
14:00 You are our first guest on the podcast
18:20 I bought into the concept U.S. Marines are the hardest the toughest
25:00 Fire Fighter or Police Officer LEO what pulled you one way or the other
33:10 AJ's ride along
38:20 Travis goes back to being a Fire Fighter
44:20 what keeps AJ up at night
50:00 People will try to steal your time
53:40 Post Traumatic Purpose Tour
1:02:20 What was Travis's stand-up opener
1:07:50 8 billion people on this earth and there's one person who gets to do what I do


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SPEAKER_03

So I want to introduce our first guest. Let me tell you. I didn't know this was going to be our first guest, but it just ended up being that way. His name is Travis House. This guy was a Marine, firefighter, police officer, comedian, motivational speaker, and an absolute stud. This guy has gone above and beyond to a community that always rushes in without thinking to help whoever's there. Any stranger at any time, any place. He's worn all the hats. He's been the hot fireman washing the truck, and he's been that cop that uh pulled you over, but he seems like the type of guy that would be like, I'll let you off this time. Um a kind soul and has been through it to say the least.

SPEAKER_02

And uh he served our country, he lives here in South Carolina, he stood up on stage as a comedian, and I will tell you this there is nothing more terrifying anywhere on this planet than standing in front of people and telling jokes. I mean, I can't even do it right now with my kids like dad joke. So I'm super excited, and it's a real true honor to announce my man, Travis Howts, is our first guest on the AJ Buckley Show.

SPEAKER_07

Welcome to the AJ Buckley Show.

SPEAKER_02

Welcome to the show, dude. This is a huge and we had this weird text uh like five years ago when I come. You were actually one of the first people when I posted something in my front yard, I was working in my front yard with my boys, and you're like, You live in South Carolina? Because we had texted over your book that had remember like prior to even me coming here. We like had a long time ago. Yeah, it was that was when I was doing the show. And uh I was like, Yeah, I just moved here. And you I you it's you were sent a picture of when we were talking about this upstairs. You were on your tractor and you were doing your land, and and I was fixing things, and you're like, Hey man, come on. But it's taken us this long to to get it done, man. This episode of the AJ Buckley Show is brought to you by Ghost Bed. Let me tell you something. When I got sent the Ghostbed mattress, not that I had my doubts, but I was like, it's a mattress. It's not just a mattress. I'm telling you, I have had horrible back injuries over the course of my career, and this bed has gotten me to the REM every night rem sleep. Look it up. I had to look it up because I'm like, why am I glowing? Why do I look so handsome when I wake up with no morning breath? My morning breath actually disappears. It's true, it doesn't exist anymore. Ghostbed is a proud sponsor of the AJ Buckley show. For 10% off, go to ghostbed.com forward slash buckley. And also use the code at checkout Buckley. Code word Goodword Buckley.

SPEAKER_00

I'm glad to be here though. Welcome to South Carolina, by the way.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00

It's a great spot, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, dude, man. It do you know what is it's uh my mom would say this too. It's like uh it does feel a little like Areland. Yeah, it it it's the people here, you know, they they pop over. Like in Ireland, they people just pop over. Really? Yeah, like they they'll just like you're someone will be at your door. That's how you know you're a good guy. Nobody pops over to my house. Sometimes I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, uh, oh shit. Like, you know, you have a long, you know, whatever whatever it is, or just you're just you know the house is a mess. Um, and but yeah, it's like just people go by on their golf court, they'll wave to you, next thing you know, it's like football games on, and I'd never seen anything like it before. Just the people just were so welcoming. And I would always travel, I'm always traveling, and um my neighbors just looked out for my wife and took care of her and the kids and stepped up. I didn't know them that well, but they were like, hey, well, how can we help? That's so cool. Yeah, our neighbor, Mr. Jimmy, across the way when I was out of town, he would come over and take the garbage out because my wife didn't know what when the schedule was, but just yeah, and you're from here, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's a special place, and I'll be I'll be honest. So I you know, I've been in Charleston for 25 years, but I grew up just south of here in Bluffton, little town. Yeah, but Bluffton was just cornfields when I grew up there, and we have a say and now, and nobody here is from here anymore. Everybody found out about this place, and everybody came right to it. So I mean it's a it's a wonderful place.

SPEAKER_02

Even when I I did a movie here in '98, and it was like different. Like it was a lot different, one. Yeah, it was it was so different, but it was still, it just had that magic. It was like we stayed at the it was the double tree hotel, you know, on where um downtown market, it was right door market, yeah, and T Bone, yeah, that T-Bone Sakehouse. I would always spit get my um per diem, and I'd go down there because there's a really hot girl that worked at the was a bartender there, and I was like, uh what happened? I'm like, hey, just so you know, I'm an actor here and I'm doing a movie. Did I tell you that every day? And she's like, I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_00

You know a statistic about down there? So I was a firefighter downtown, and when I was a young firefighter coming to downtown, they're like, dude, the ratio women to men is seven to one. And I was like, no way. And then you stand outside one night in front of the fire station. Yeah, just nothing but chancellor, dude.

SPEAKER_02

Dude, is that why you became a fireman? No, I mean, there's there's a l, there's a there's a little because there is like there's nothing like we will go. I've got some buddies that are firemen around here, and even my buddies, you know, um that are firemen in in in different places in the country. There's a certain prestige that like you're washing that truck, and you know, people driving by, and you know, expect my one of my buddies is a fireman in Nashville, yeah, and they deliberately go down Broadway.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_02

We used to go to Market Street all the time because every bachelorette party is like, you gotta kiss firemen. They're like, Well, I'm here.

SPEAKER_00

We have a station, central station downtown, and it's right in the heart of the market area. And we would always, if we were working there, if I got detailed over there or whatnot, we would stand outside at two in the morning after the bars closed, and all the girls would come by, they'd slide down the poles. This is back when you could allow that stuff. Yeah, we had a big girl break both her fucking ankles one time, though. So they they they stopped that shit. That she jumped up on the yeah, she was heavy. Then she went to the top of the stairs, and we're all standing down there. We're like, all right, come on, and she fucking plummeted. Boom.

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Broke.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I I I've done that before, and it it is like it's you if you're not prepared, like the movies, yeah. It's no, yeah. It doesn't look like what is it? We were talking about that that movie earlier, Sean. Not the uh ladder, but the one with um the Baldwins and their what's that talking about backdraft? Backdraft. Yeah, it ain't like backdraft. No, it's not like backdraft.

SPEAKER_00

They grease that pole. Them fuckers came down fast. Fast. Yeah, RZ would get stuck in it.

SPEAKER_02

It's like it's like you have the uh uh um now there's an exercise class for girls to go in on stripper poles, it's called strip, strip something. Do you know what it is? I'm old, I don't know shit anymore. So there's there's literally like I I saw this, I was like, Were you talking about pole pole dance, pole expole? Yeah, pole dancing. They get something but they it's like I and to be honest with you, like I tried to like just swing around and like it's tough. It's really hard, man.

SPEAKER_00

I used to try it when we'd slide down the poles. I'll try to act like a stripper, and I'm like, how do they do this?

SPEAKER_02

This is pre-magic mic, too.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, yeah. Those strippers got some real talent, dude. You gotta give it to them.

SPEAKER_02

They really do, man. And what the crazy part is the ones in Thailand that can shoot like ping pong balls out of their we can go off the rails about Thailand if you want. Have you been to Thailand? Oh, yeah. Oh man, I worked over there and uh I after we rapped, I went, it was like a month, I stayed for a month. You got a rap in Thailand? No, it was just it was oh yeah. Man, well, just I didn't know even what a lady boy was. You know now? I do know now. Yeah, I guess I got saved by somebody like, hey man, that's a dude. I'm like, no, it's not. And they're like, Yes, it is. I'm like, I'm out of here.

SPEAKER_00

I got true stories about lady boys, but only one that I'm gonna tell. I was actually on a scooter with one because it's this hot girl.

SPEAKER_02

So here's I went to scooter code for something? No, just you know, a little muphead.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, um, yeah, scooter is a code for balls. But I was dating a police officer from here, and she she went to Iraq to work for Dyne Corps while I was a firefighter. And we scheduled this vacation together in Thailand. So I met her over there. I flew over there in 2005 to meet her, met her there in Bangkok, and um she's like, Yeah, I'm seeing somebody else. And I'm like, What the fuck? You flew me all the way over here. So I took a vacation by myself anyway. While I was over there, I was in Padia Beach, and I was out on a surfboard, and this this sexy girl just kept looking at me, man. This Thai girl smiling and waving, that one motherfucker in the water, and I was like, Shit, this is my day. Yeah, yeah. This is my day. I went over there and started talking to her. Everything seemed fine, and she asked if I wanted to go for a ride. And in the back of my mind, I'm like, You wanna go for a ride?

SPEAKER_02

So I was like, Yeah, I jumped on her scooter and uh did you see the dorsal fin then or no? I did.

SPEAKER_00

I actually I looked down and you could see it from the back, dude. Something wasn't right. Bless her heart. Yeah, it was a ball. It's gross, man.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's eject.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. So I ended up not, I'm gonna cut that story right there. Yeah, we can edit it out if you want. Oh, you can do that. But I bowed out of that one. So uh, yeah, it's real, it's a real thing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's it's a crazy thing, man. It's amazing too. It's like America, one of the greatest things, I'm an immigrant here. I was born in Dublin, and uh I went to Canada and then after I moved to the States when I was 16 to do a movie. I had my 17th birthday here in Los Angeles. And I because of my job, I've gotten to travel all over the world. There's no better country than America.

SPEAKER_00

Pretty nice, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02

It is just uh it really is, man. As as as crazy as as everybody says this as this it is, the world is right now with it. You get that most people don't understand because they haven't traveled to other country to other countries like how good it is. Like as flawed as it is, uh it's it's pretty damn good. Like we can agree to disagree and and have a healthy conversation. I remember talking with um uh one of my buddies who's special operations, and when all this stuff was going on, I'm like, doesn't does it bother you that like you fought and came back and now there's this rhetoric back and forth. Like, is that bug you? He's like, No, it's the best thing ever. I'm like, why? He's like, that's freedom of speech. Freedom of speech, right? I was like, that's a great way to look at it, man. I didn't I didn't see it that way.

SPEAKER_00

I was like why we do what we did, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, because you I was like, you want to get your point in, right? And and I'm like, yeah, he's like, well, you can. You're allowed to hear. That's what we fought for. And other countries, what they don't you can't do that.

SPEAKER_00

Imagine going somewhere else and you can't even express anything. And that's the thing, BJ, it's just like you said, it's uh people here that bitch about this place, yeah, they've never been anywhere. No, because they come right back. Yeah, there's people like, I'm packing my bags of so-and-so. Let's go, motherfucker. You'll come back.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I missed I missed my flight, got canceled. Yeah, I I remember when I moved to South Carolina, and this is I'll never forget this day because now I've I've sort of paid it forward in a way. I was pulling out of my neighborhood, and uh there was somebody in front of me, and I just went this big old older man, country boy. That's a polite beat. Yeah, and he got out, he just walked up, and I had California plates on at the time, just I just fresh here. I was like, and he's like, he's like, Hey, you're uh you just moved here or you're passing through, and I was like, No, sir, like I was ever. He's like, I just want to let you know something. He's like, Welcome to to Mount Pleasant, South Carolina. He's like, We don't honk here. I was like, okay. He goes, uh, you'll get there when God wants you to get there. I was like, okay. He's like, have a nice day. I was like, okay. And then I was like, you know what? Why would I like what am I like? And then so then I got used to it. And now also when I hear a horn, I'm like, oh my god. Like when I land back in Los Angeles or New York or something, it is you're just so horns. Yeah, it's just crazy, and just it's just a different, it's a different pace. Like when I land here, uh I feel I feel at home. I feel peaceful. I I do. I just I just the airport is so small and perfect. Yeah, it's like you just show up and you're like, I know the TSA guy's like, what's up, Jimmy? What's up, Bob? Like, go in and you know, it's just like a cool have a little sandwich and you're off.

SPEAKER_00

People think the South is really nice, but you can get your ass whipped or beeping a horn over somebody.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah. That's real quick. And that's that that's that's that's the difference where it's like your handshake means something here, yeah, you know, and people are you know, they don't people don't get wrapped up in the politics per se. They they they they care more about your character and who you are and what you do. Again, you can have these disagreements with this, but it's not something they they lead with and like this, and like, all right, cool. And more times than not, you know, have had friends that have come to town or whatever, and they're either really extreme one way or real extreme the other way. And I used to get anxiety over it, and they're like, no one gives a shit. They just want you if you're a good person, just gonna be good people, just good people at the end of it. Who gives a fuck? It's like, you know, only worry about the things you can control. And we can't control any of that stuff. Let's talk about born of discipline. Go to born of discipline.com and get yourself some merch. The staple merch of the AJ Buckley show. It's something that I really believe in. It starts with spirit, okay? Then it's the mind, then it's the body. Spirit leads, get your mind right, body will transform. This is the ethos of bornofdiscipline.com. You're our first guest. I'm so excited to have you here. I've been following you on Instagram, and I just think what you've been doing after what you've been through is pretty remarkable. And I kind of just want to paint the picture to the audience of of your journey and who you are. And um, I mean, a lot of people obviously know who you are and what you do and the the lives that you impact. But for for somebody out there that um that doesn't know who you are, let's start at the beginning with um your family. Yeah. How big you how who who's in your family? Mom, dad?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I just had a mom, dad, and a sister, man. So what was it, this big old country family? No, I'm the youngest. You're the youngest. Yeah. So I have an older sister, three and a half. So you were the you were the one the rough and tumble, like you know, the and you know, more of me, I was kind of like a girl, dude. I had a sister who was a cheerleader, and she and I had an aunt who was a stripper from Montreal, Canada. All right, and she would come down. I told people.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I told people I started cross-dressing when I was seven.

SPEAKER_04

There you go. She was shit.

SPEAKER_00

This is a true story, man. She would put a clip-on ponytail on me, put me in some high heels, and make me dance around. She called me Traveling. I got very secure very fast.

SPEAKER_02

There you go, man. Hey, man, you probably look good in those heels. I did. I still do, man. So you just gotta have good calves.

SPEAKER_00

That's all you gotta do. I got some good calves. So that's it. Yeah, but um, that's how I grew up down south.

SPEAKER_02

Nice. And then your career of Marines, fireman, police officer. So you've just been in a life of service.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, man. So, you know, at a very young age, I knew I wanted to do all kinds of things. I never wanted to commit to anything long term. My father was one of those old school guys, he did the same job 40 years. You know what I mean? Yeah, and then that's how and that's how it works. They were just they're built different things. I'm not knocking that, but also knew at a young age, I was like, man, I just want to I want to experience so many different things. And I'm very fortunate and blessed that I did all the things I wanted to do. There's nothing in life to this point that I want to do that I haven't done. Does that make sense? Oh, hell yeah. And so I got a lot of I said, I said if my book, if my life is a book, I got a lot of chapters, dude.

SPEAKER_02

What chapter? Because it's a it's a certain from doing the from doing SHIL team. Marines are are built different in the best way possible. To choose that you want to go be a marine, you're out of your goddamn mind. It is like you guys are the toughest, baddest, like there is there, there is nothing the that training, that mindset, it is so intense compared to other branches. It is a di it is a different, there it's so different, but there's definitely personalities within that. And I have tons of marine buddies, they're all like just hard chargers, super hyper-focused, like we'll like the best guys to go out with, you know, the best guy that's your 3 a.m. buddy always. That they will show up like that. They're just a different breed of things.

SPEAKER_00

Like, how did you choose the Marines? They are, but I know some Army Rangers that would that would be a good thing. 100% too. Yeah, yeah. You know, the crazy story is I grew up in Bluffton, South Carolina. So we are you have Paris Island, which is Marine Corps recruit depot right across the street, or right across the river. Oh, that's right, because there's a lot of yeah, yeah, and then across Savannah River, I believe it's the 75th Ranger Battalion. You have one of the Ranger Battalions over there. And I got exposed really early to both of those. So my cousin dated a guy that worked at Hunter Army Airfield, and he would always bring us over there, and his barracks was right next to the Rangers. And I was a young guy in high school, man, and we would go over there and we'd talk to these guys, we'd watch them, man. We dude we watched birds land and they run out the back, and we're like, man, that's really cool. So part of me wanted to be army, right? And I wanted to go the ranger route. Yeah, but then the other part of me, when I played little league football, we would go to Paris Island, we would play so the drill instructors, all their sons were on football teams, and we'd go over there, and then you'd watch these recruits getting smoked, man, in the 80s and the early 90s. And I was like, fuck, man, I really want to be a Marine, right? You just wanted to test yourself? Yeah, I wanted, I wanted to do both. I really wanted to, and I and I was really torn. And you know, as I got older, I just started, I bought into that concept, that mindset that like like you just said, right? I bought into it, well, Marines are the hardest, they're the toughest, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I wanted to prove something to me, and I damn sure wanted to prove something to my father that I could do something hard. Because it looked, when I was seven, I was cross-dressing, right? Yeah, and then now I want my dad to know I can still be a man. So I joined, I joined the Marine Corps and I went to Marine Corps infantry.

SPEAKER_02

That is a complete if they if people watching this pick up on that, they're gonna be like, hold on, you gotta back up like five six minutes. You see what I did? I'll put that in the show notes and knock that motherfucker out of the park, dude. That's a good that's a good lick right there. That is good. So, and then what was that first day in Marines when that guy comes up to you and gets right in your face? What was you know?

SPEAKER_00

I I have a pretty wild story with boot camp, dude, and it's it's almost unbelievable. Um, I was actually talking to a Marine Corps major about this one time. He was stationed at um the recruit depot, and I told him some of the stories that I mean we could get into here, and he was he he was like, There's no fucking way. But I'm telling you, these things happen, and I got no reason to embellish that. Yeah. Um, I was a local boy. The drill instructors knew that, and so they made it really, really hard for me. Because I mean, I literally grew up there, and when they found that out, they wreaked havoc on me. But there was also some reward in that towards the end that I can tell you about. So my first name in boot camp was tough. What was your nickname? Yeah, call camp. They didn't nothing. I didn't know I wasn't like that. I mean, it was house, and I was so we got quarter decked a lot, and you got sent to the pit a lot, and I was there all the time, multiple times a day. I dated a girl in high school, her father was a PMI primary marksmanship instructor out on the rifle range. He was a staff sergeant, and he didn't approve of me dating his daughter. So this dude knew all the drill instructors, so you can imagine you know what I'm saying? It'd be like me and you being boys, and I'm a drill instructor, and your daughter's dating somebody, you're gonna come to me and be like, Oh fucking make his life miserable. Let's see what he's made of. 13 weeks of that dude. So literally, when my platoon got picked up from receiving, you go to receiving for a couple days, they get you, you know, integrated and all that, get you all your gear, then they send you to platoon. Well, when my platoon picked up, two days later, we're outside and I get called in by myself to the senior journal instructors hooch, and I walk in and Staff Sergeant Mike Davis is standing there. That's my my uh girlfriend's dad, and he's there with all my journal instructors. And my senior journal instructor looked at me and goes, You know who this uh Marine is? I was like, Sir, yes, sir. He goes, You're fucked. That's all he said, and it was on, dude. I mean, they tried to fucking they tried to ruin me. And as in that moment in my life, I realized, like, look, I really want to be a Marine. I can let this break me.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Or we see what we got.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I had a rough go, dude.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, and I'm not trying to church it up by any means, but it was you got called out a lot. You I mean, I had to pay for shit that other people did all the time. Like, let's say Thompson fucked off and did something, you pay. Go get house for it. And I'm like, I wasn't even near this guy. They're like, You fucking pay. Um, do you think it's because they saw greatness in you? No, I think they really hated me. Oh, really? Because of this staff sergeant. Well, you gotta think. Now, I told this staff sergeant about a week before I went into boot camp, his wife got on the telephone, pulled the phone away from my girlfriend, said something to me, and I was like, bitch, you can kiss my ass. I'm 18 years old. I said this to a Marine's wife. What do you think he's gonna do?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, dude, yeah, you're you see my point?

SPEAKER_00

And looking back, I was a punk ass kid. I get that. Yeah, yeah, he he but he had his sights on you. But I bet you he came to my graduation. Yeah, he showed up with his wife, his daughter. He was proud of me, man. And we're actually friends today.

SPEAKER_02

No way, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But one of the crate I don't even know if I can tell a story.

SPEAKER_02

Have to tell.

SPEAKER_00

I won't say it. Yeah, don't say it. We'll leave it. We'll leave it. Yeah, you tell me off air. I'll tell you afterwards. It's it's unfucking believable about boot camp, and I promise you, nobody's ever had this experience.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it's so wild that it would probably raise questions in the Marine Corps. They'd be like, Yeah, yeah. It's fucking nuts.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. That's great. So when how how when did you get out of the Marine Corps?

SPEAKER_00

I got out in 2000.

SPEAKER_02

2000. So what was happening in the world then?

SPEAKER_00

Dude, it was pretty cool, man. I got out, and you know, I was Marine Corps infantry, so I got out before GWAT. Yeah. And uh, you know, all of that. I got out right before that kicked off. I got out, I was like, man, I'm gonna go be a police officer. So I was five, I was putting in applications to be a police officer and everything.

SPEAKER_02

How old are you at this time?

SPEAKER_00

I'm 22. Oh wow, yeah, didn't know shit. Isn't it crazy though?

SPEAKER_02

Like when you think about 22 and you're like and you've now just done 13 weeks of the hardest stuff. You've you've you've proven to yourself, you're discovering, you're on the journey of like, who am I? Wait, you're talking about when I got out of boot camp? Yeah, like but no, I'm just saying, like, sorry, when the the how many years are you in the Marine Corps? Four. Sorry, so not the third, but you're when you get the Marines, you've done four years. Yeah. You in in yourself at that point have done something that most people can't, but you've also like you're still in the self-discovery mode. You don't know what the world is ahead of you. It's still because I look back to 22 when I switched, I I thought I knew everything.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, so yeah, like to capitalize on your point, at 22 years old, you couldn't tell me anything. I'm I'm Marine. I've been, you know, we deployed overseas multiple times. We went to Southwest Asia, we went to the Mediterranean. No, we weren't in Afghanistan, we weren't in Iraq and all that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, you're gonna get your guys that are like, you didn't do shit, and that's fine. Um, but I'm not in a dick measuring contest. But I can promise you this when we got back and I got out of the Marine Corps, I could, I was so excited, dude. And it Marine Corps is everything I ever wanted. Yeah, and then I couldn't wait for it to be over, and that's the problem with life. We never really in in in like like we never fully absorb the journey we're on, yeah, and we just can't wait to get to the next thing, next thing. Yeah, and to my to your point, I get out at 22 years old and I'm in the world now, yeah. And it was nothing like it was before I left. Yeah, the Marine Corps shaped my young brain in ways that I'm st I'm still like this today in certain ways, and I have expectations of people, I have expectations of businesses. And I I have a hard time fitting in into society because of some things of the Marine Corps, yeah, and and it and it's all all good things I think, but I'm also quick to dive off in somebody's ass too because yeah, the way we were. But yeah, you get out, you're 22, you think you know just because you've been all over the world, man. Shit, we went like 20-something countries. I can't only I lost count. Yeah, but you get out, but what an experience, bro. And I go back to Bluffton, South Carolina to squat and gobble, the only restaurant we have, and I'm like, this is all we fucking got. I was just hanging hookers in Turkey, and you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02

Did you have your high and tight still?

SPEAKER_00

Nah, I let that shit grow up. So usually in a Marine Corps, when especially I know the infantry guys, us, yeah, we try everything we can to not look like a Marine because I was in Jacksonville, North Carolina. Yeah, but everybody looks like a Marine. Yeah. So we'd grow our fades real low, get a low reg. Yeah. And we think nobody knew we were Marines, but clearly we're fucking Marines. You could see us walking down the street.

SPEAKER_02

Your Marine tattoo gave it away.

SPEAKER_00

Um yeah, I came out, man, and I got into law enforcement, I got into the firefighting stuff and all that, and that's how everything happened to me.

SPEAKER_02

And was your choice of like firefighting and being a police officer both have their like their risks, their their rushes. Was it one that pulled you in a direction because of certain things, or was it the brotherhood? Was it a different thing? Because the firefighters, like, like you said, we were just talking about earlier, like you go by there and it's like they got the food out, and it's like the thing. And then cops, uh, you're in, you got your patrol body, and you're and it's more out there. It's just a different, and it's a different type of uh you go to the same crime scenes, you go to the same events, but it's a there's a different process in how things are are handled. Like you guys can't enter a scene until the cops get there, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, usually, yeah. Yeah, usually it depends on what it is. It depends if there's a safety going. Yeah, but I could tell you the difference between you know police and fire from what I learned. When you become police officer, I became a police police officer at an early age, and I was in I became a police officer at a very early age, and um I was exposed to, although I'd been all over the world and been to different countries and I'd seen different cultures, I'd never been exposed to what I was about to be exposed to here in our own country. Yeah, I grew up in a pretty safe spot. Yeah. Now we had our share of bullshit when I was a kid, we lost a lot of friends because we were in small town USA where there were no opportunities for people and people did mischievous stuff. But man, when I became a police officer in the fifth most violent city in the country at the time, really, it was a fucking eye-opener, dude. And what I learned really quickly is to trust nobody, yeah. And I became very jaded towards society, yeah. And that for me as a police officer, everybody was a suspect. And it didn't matter what color you are, what religion you were, when you looked at people, you were like, Yeah, who is this motherfucker and what's he trying to take advantage of? That's the way, as a police officer, when you work in busy, busy places, you have to be like that. It's a survival instinct, dude.

SPEAKER_02

And we did you have a partner or were you on your own?

SPEAKER_00

No, we didn't ride too many vehicles. We had one person. Now we had obviously I worked in a busy city and we had plenty of backup around us, but we were always in our own patrol car. So when you would get out at three o'clock in the morning with a suspect with just you, I mean, there's been plenty of times where I've put my hands on a dude and he's got a gun on him, and these people don't like you, you know what I mean? So it's pretty hairy situations. The difference between being a cop and being a firefighter in that aspect is when you're a firefighter, everybody loves you. Yeah, you're that's what I'm saying. Like it's too it's night and day, dude. And so you don't when you're a firefighter on the truck riding down a street, you're not looking at the world the same way you are as a police officer. No, and people are waving, girls are showing their tits, yeah. You know, but when you're a cop, fuck the police. Yeah, it's so great. They don't make a song called Fuck the Firefighters. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, they want to fuck the firefighters, that's about it.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

Um but man, I had wild experiences with both. Yeah. And what was the segue where when you become cop, where were you like, you know what? Did you just so it was split service for me?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you were doing both at the same time?

SPEAKER_00

So I got out, I actually got out of the Marine Corps, became a firefighter first.

SPEAKER_06

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I wanted to be a cop. Yeah, my father talked me out of it, so I became a firefighter for two years, and then I just couldn't stop thinking about being a police officer. And you know what hooked me? Still young, still I'd by that time in my life, I'd seen a lot of bad things in my life because we we don't even we haven't even gotten into the childhood trauma stuff, but by that point in my life, I was already very experienced with seeing gnarly stuff. Yeah, I went to a police ride along two years into the fire service, and this guy, Tyler, he was a he was a police officer. And uh he says, Man, you want to do a ride along with me? And I was like, No, we were working out in the gym. And uh I said, No, I don't want to be a cop, I'm not gay. And uh he's like, No, fuck you, you're a fireman, you're worse. And I was like, All right, I'll go on a ride along. Yeah, so I go on this ride along with him. The very first call he gets dispatched to. I mean, we walk out of the squad room, and I'll never forget this. We went to the Iroquois projects, and there was a homicide dude laying dead in the front, right in the street, had his whole head blown off. And uh he's like, Yeah, welcome to the police force. Now we had been to stuff like that in a fire scene, yeah. But by the time we got there, there was no chaos, everybody was taped up and everything. But we got there and shit was still bumping. Yeah, you know, and I'm standing outside of the car as a ride-along, and I was that adrenaline surge, man, was coming back, and I'm looking at him and he's at he know he's had a tactical awareness about him. And you know, I come from the Marine Corps infantry where they have tactical side and shit. And I was like, God damn, yeah, this is kind of legit. And I went back next day and put my application in. Oh my gosh. I went and told my captain at the firehouse. I was like, hey, Captain Joe, I said, I gotta tell you something, man. Wow. He's like, What you dying? I was like, No, I think I want to be a cop. He goes, Fuck, that's even worse than dying. But lo and behold, I got I got hired. You know, we went through this long process, man, and I got hired, and they called me one day and they're like, Hey man, I want to offer you a position. And I was at the fire station when I got the call and I was like, fuck. Because I loved being a firefighter. Yeah. But I had to know. You had to know. I had to know. So I went and I uh I did the police force, man. Went became I became the police, and how was that? How long did you do that for? Man, I lasted about two and a half years. Two and a half years, just burnt out. No, got fired. There you go. Hey man, I got fired to go back to fireman. Even better. So we can get into that another day, but yeah, pretty much it's like when criminals do something wrong on the street, none of them are guilty. I didn't do it, but oh well, tell it to the judge. I got fired for something I didn't do. So people were like, well, that's bullshit. But I actually was offered my position back. But by the time they offered that to me, I went right back to the fire station. Yeah, yeah. And I was over there, I was like, no, I'm not playing your political bullshit. Yeah. Goes back to my point, man. Being a cop is fun, it is great. But if you were a headhunter like we were doing, if you were a proactive guy, and that's when policing was really starting to change. Yeah. And where they would tell you, go do your job, go do your job. And then when you do your job, all of a sudden you're in trouble for doing what they told you to go do, and then higher ups act like, no, we didn't tell them to do that. Yeah, that's what I got caught up in. But yeah, they called back, it's actually the chief of the fucking department. Man, I actually saw him in the gym one day and he got my number and he goes, Man, I want to apologize to you for that the way that went down. I was like, No, that's that's good, chief. One day he calls me personally. He's like, Would you like to come back here? And I was like, Absolutely not. Yeah, he's like, Why not? I said, Because I'm at the fire department. Yeah, you can literally show your balls over here to somebody and not get in trouble.

SPEAKER_02

That's my favorite thing to do.

SPEAKER_00

So I gotta be a fire, I'm gonna volunteer. I know. I stayed on, man. And it's uh you know, some guys are fortunate in police force, they they're able to have a long career and not get hemmed up. But say so that year that I got hemmed up, man, there were like 50 something officers that also got hemmed up. It was just changing, and yeah, they were just weeding us out real fast.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's a different breed, man. I mean, and the crazy, we we need you both, you know, like it's it's if we don't have either of those, it's it's a this society's in a in a is in a big pickle. Yeah, it's and and that's it's so easy to to throw past to to pass judgment on uh any of those situations, but you know it always blows me away just how quick people are like, well, it's like but you're not in those situations. Yeah, sure there's there's incidences that that happen, of course, there's there's bad, of course, but there's more good than there is bad, and in that split second of having to make decisions, your lifeline the line. Yeah, you know, and and that's and that's the stuff that I'm just always like, man, it's like you like until you've like walked in those shoes, and I I did a ride along, I was playing a cop in a show, and I did a ride along in Los Angeles.

SPEAKER_00

No, that's right.

SPEAKER_02

Freaked the shit out of me. Like I was, I was first of all, I they brought, we went on a tour, and he's like, Hey, do you know this part of LA? It was like in East LA, where um they're all on horseback, and he's like, We're gonna go break up an illegal cockfight. I'm like, okay. And uh that's different here in South Carolina, but it is, right? So we we we go down and we go and it's like we show up and it's like it's like it's rough. And I'm not armed, I've just got a vest on, and I'm like, okay, and I clearly do not look like a cop. But he's like, just follow me and we'll go. And he, as we're getting out, or before we get to the thing, he goes, for some reason, if we take fire, get out of the car and follow me. I was like, What when'd you say? I'm like, are you fucking with me? Because he's no like he's like, do not stay in the car.

SPEAKER_00

It's the worst place you can be.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, okay, like, what am I doing? This is okay, my this is my wife was pregnant. I'm like, okay, this is I'm like, I gotta research AJ, it's research. So then we go through, so then I'm like, you know what? Act like your character. So I'm like walking around the room. I'm like, what's up? What's up? What's up? And I'm like going through the thing, and then I'm like, oh my God, I think those guys fucking hate. They're they they they're on to me. I'm like getting my head. And I'm uh walk walk back around to the thing, and then now they're all hard staring at me, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm like, looking at my shoes, get in the car and uh drive along. He's like, You good? I'm like, yeah, I just realized that um that moment where you you have that adrenaline dump that like if you weren't there, or like I've been jumped before at at uh uh at train station stuff, but it's like when the predator locks in, they're like, We got one, like the the young the the the deer that gets away from the pack or the but the the little baby buffalo that like his things and like the lines are like that moment they all looked at me coming back, they're like, He's not a cop, we got him, and I could feel them staring at me. I was like, we gotta get out of here. But yet when I played the character on TV, I was I was hard, but I was like, What's up? That's so funny. Yeah, it was and it was a it was a crazy thing, and it just it really does when you get to see for the first time, the stakes are incredibly high, and it's such a it's such a a different different uh um a different mindset. Um, and it's so hard to you can't make it make sense to people that don't do it. So, and I've tried and lack of sleep and underfunded, all that shit, forget it.

SPEAKER_00

You can't make it make sense, and then one of the other things too is I don't ever talk about um time and service, I talk about experience and service. There's a big difference. Like you, I know you have a lot of people that are in the military that follow and watch. You can take a guy that's been in the military 25 years with no combat deployments, they want to listen to probably a Lance Corporal with five combat deployments, right? Yeah, was only in for five or six years, whatever it be. If my math is wrong, fuck. My point is when I was a police officer, you don't think two and a half years is a long time unless you serve in a very violent city, and it is a fucking eon. And I remember at the academy, because we went to a state academy, and they had all the people from our jurisdiction stand up. They're like, Who's working in North Charleston? And so there was several of us in there, and they they go stand up. We stood up in front of this whole class, we're like, What the fuck did we do? And they're like, These dudes are gonna see more in six months than most of you will in your entire career. Sit down, and I was like, What the fuck? And so we thinking, oh man, hell yeah, can't wait. Yeah, yeah, and you don't realize, dude, I mean, the very first night, I'm not getting into stories here, but the very first night, yeah, I realized how real that was, and it was two and a half years of nothing but that, every single night. And to get to your point, people on the outside are always going to judge what they would have done, yeah, and what you how you should have reacted. But bro, when you're fisticuffing with people non-stop and your life is literally on the line non-stop, and then you show up at a barking dog call and just because you're a little inappropriate with the person because your runiform uniform's ripped because you were pushed in front of a fucking moving vehicle 10 minutes before that. I'm sorry if I'm not so polite to you.

SPEAKER_02

But that's the thing, too. It's like when you're in those very primal situations, they that that alpha will pick out the where that where they can attack the weak one. And I was definitely the little lamb. The only I would say one of the coolest things though, the highlight of that night was when we left and he pulled into the gas station. I walked in to go to the bathroom and uh I grabbed a coffee and like a protein bar, and I walked up. She's like, You're good. I was like, uh uh, what do you mean? Um, no, no, no. Cops are free. And I'm like, that's right. Like, I'm coming back tomorrow. I was like, I'm a I'm uh uh I'm like Officer Buckley uh at your service. I got my coffee. I'm thinking, what's your name again? That's right, Susie. I'll be back. It was like I walked out, I'm like, you got a free protein bar? And he's like, he's like, yeah, man, that's that's our our thing, man. She's she's good people. That's great. But uh, so then let's let's go go to then you go back to being a fireman. Jason, you better answer. Call him back again.

SPEAKER_03

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SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it went back to me.

SPEAKER_02

Fireman, and and what year is this?

SPEAKER_00

That was 2003. Hang on. Man, I'm getting old and I'm gonna do the math. 2005.

SPEAKER_02

2005. 2005. How would someone if in 2005, how would someone just if one of your your fellow firemen, how would they describe you as life at a party. Life at the party?

SPEAKER_00

Completely opposite of what I am now. Isn't that crazy? It's fucking nuts. I'm yeah, the old me has been dead for many years. Yeah, what do you mean by that? I used to be fun, I used to be outgoing, I used to love people, I used to love being around a lot of people. I was adventurous, I'm none of those things anymore.

SPEAKER_04

How come?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know, man. I think uh I mean Is that a conscious choice or just like a I think life has has done a lot to me over the years that sucked all of that out of me, and I'm trying to find that and I like to use the excuse.

SPEAKER_02

The thing though is like what the great thing you find that is great. Every time you see a sunrise, you got a chance to figure that out.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, man, but we can so we can get into to that if you want. I think when somebody has experienced so much as far as like uh maybe evil and death goes, yeah, fair enough. I think you lose a lot of hope. And I think over the years it does something to you and desensitizes you. And it's not that I want to be that way, because trust me, I don't I don't pride myself on being shut down and reclusive and an asshole and like not trusting people. But everything I've experienced in life, we are what what's the the say you you become your environment? Yeah, and that's led me to this point in life. I'm 47 years old. And well, you look good, you look fit, you're taking care of yourself. I try, man, but I don't sleep anymore. And you know, I I do the best that I can with what I have. I'm 47, and I've what I've found is You don't sleep at all.

SPEAKER_02

You're not a good sleeper?

SPEAKER_00

No, man, I don't sleep like shit.

SPEAKER_02

Really? You're gonna come over and do this hyperbaric chamber. I gotta do something, and you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna sleep like a baby after that will knock your ass out. Well, that's what I need. Cold punch, sauna thing, and and you will your body just you can't help but do that.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't mean to cut, I didn't mean to cut you off. No, you're fine. I but I think what it is, and so when I speak around the country, I talk about these things because what we're finding, you know what military is crazy is military got this big spotlight for so many years. They got this mental health spotlight. And over here in the cold was the was first responders, and nobody was talking about that because war is sexy, it's um you know, it's on TV all the time. We have movies and all this, and then with the the big GWAT thing going on, there was all this publicity. But over here, you got first responders hooking and jabbing. And I'll tell you right now, bro, there are some first responders out there that are in these streets that have seen more than some of these war veterans. Without a doubt, without question, and they still and and you can't compare trauma, right? You know, going out, I guess you know, trauma's trauma, yeah, and it affects the brain in certain ways. 100%. And you got guys and girls over here, man, that they're they're in these career paths, they're not doing deployments, yeah, they're doing a career in these training every night, and they're fucked up. Unfortunately, I meet a lot of these people around the country when I do my my big events, yeah. And I find so many people just like me, man. I find these people like they're they're really good, salted earth people, and you can tell they got these big personalities, but somewhere along the line that died, and now they just want to be left the fuck alone. And I think what it is is they see the real humanity that's out there and they lose all fucking hope. Yeah, you know, because it's not a TV show for us, it's not living in Mount Pleasant where everybody's just like jolly and shit. Like there's still a lot of fucking assholes out there, and there's a lot of yeah, there's a lot of hate out there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And I I I I I I couldn't agree with you more, and I think I had more of that realization too when I had my kids and I started to cry like when I had my kids, I I I I felt mortality for the first time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And I was always like, as long as I'm standing, I can protect my family. But then I started getting anxiety like when I would get when I would would learn about certain things like the the the cr the the evil that exists in this world. And I was like, what what would keep me up at night is what's gonna happen if I'm not there? Like this is a horrible this is a horrible place. And I was thinking it was Jordan Peterson or one of those guys I remember he was on Joe Rogan or something, he's like with your kids, he's like, you gotta raise dangerous men. Yeah and and they have to be able to control it. You know, they have to be able to you rather what did you rather have a uh a warrior in a garden? Yeah, in a garden in a war. Yeah, that's right. And I was like, man, that's crazy, right? It's a crazy thing because that that's I I I I don't have trouble like yourself sleeping, but I get in I get anxiety worrying about if I'm not if I if I'm not there, how who uh what who's gonna and it's probably through my own loss of my father that I carry this fear of um not being there for my kids or that uh something might happen and I can't help. It's like trying to hold water. I know exactly what you're doing. You know, and it's just you see you you can't hold water. You can't, you know. If I always say to my kids, my kids are like, Dad, if you had a super how would it be? And I'm like, what would your super power be, Dad? What would you? And I'm like, pause time. I want to be able to pause this moment. I don't, I just want to stay with you guys forever, and that's it. And I'll get choked up thinking about that. I'm with you, bro. That guy, whoo.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, when you're talking about your kids like that.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I'm a crybaby when I talk about my kids. First podcast, AJ Buckley showed, I'm fucking crying.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I can switch that when you were 15. What would your what would your superpower be when you were like let's say 13, 12, 13? Talk to girls. Mine would have been x-ray vision. Yeah, you remember that? Yeah, yeah, see through walls.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because I saw porkies and I was like, the guys remember to go through the thing. I was such a little pervert because like no girl would talk to me. You know, I remember I just wanted a boob in my mouth, and that's all I wanted. Just one nipple. That's it. I couldn't get it.

SPEAKER_00

I remember when X-ray vision, like when you think about X-ray vision, you thought that meant you could see through girls' clothes. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, no, you're gonna x-ray vision. Yeah, and then someone showed me what x-ray vision is, it's like, well, you can't see anything there. You're just looking at her bones. Yeah, it's bones, and I don't see bones. I got a boner, I don't want to see bones. It's like that's it. It was like, no, it's like it's a crazy, it's yeah, you're I I like have you ever had translucent dreaming dreaming? So um it's just uh it was this every time I would have a dream about flying, I'd be like, oh man. And I'd I constantly have this dream, and it was like my favorite dreams were just be like I could boom, I could fly to this thing and be like, oh, this is so cool. And then a buddy of mine was like, he was really big into hypnotherapy and stuff. He's like, when that happens, control like you can really control where you want to go and like all these sort of things. And um he's like, talk to yourself and tell yourself in the dream to look at your hands. And for when you look at your hands during the dream, you cannot see your hands, they're like fuzzy. Then you you're then you realize you're dreaming, and this is a dream that you can take control of. It's only happened to me once, and it was fucking awesome. I was Superman, bro. I was like, I'm I was like, let's do that. I'm like, see that star over there, dude. I did it, I don't know how long I did it for. And I was like, okay, my hands are still fuzzy. I'm like, door, it was so great. And I like woke, my wife woke me up. I'm like, why'd you wake up? She's like, you're like literally. I was having the time of my life. I was like, my hands are fuzzy. I'm like, oh my god, I'm doing it. And I've tried every time I'm like being a dream, and I know I'm like falling asleep. I'm doing that weird thing before you drop off. And I'm like, I'm gonna look at my hands, look at my hands, and I fuck, dude. It was awesome. She fucked up your superman. I'm like, I was fucking. She's like, you have an epileptic seizure on the bed or jerking off one of the two. It's like, what are you doing? But uh, yeah, it's a crazy thing. There's this theory out there, too, that dreams are like a parallel universe, you know. There's a like that um that it's happening at the same time. Like, are we is this a dream, you know? Like that's the crazy part. It's like, you know, because we only have right at this moment, right? Like, if you you and I are here, how long we've actually been talking? Like, we don't know, you know, but it's like, but in the sense of time is defined by what? The weight of that clock. But what is time? Don't know, right? So when we fall asleep later, but when is later? Yeah, and I've always and that that stuff, that stuff keeps me up at night. Yeah, I mean, all you have is right. And I'm and I'm not taking drugs or doing it, but it just stuff this stuff I thought about as a kid. I'm like, what does it mean? And I that I was always fascinated with the the clock because it would go, and then it would shake and go. It was and it had this like violence to it, like it was gone. And that would never somebody told me, I remember teacher or somebody saying that'll never come back again. But if you look at a clock before it moves, it like it like moves in such like it's not like this graceful little, like, unless you had a Rolex. Yeah, it's like time is passing, you're rich, um, or an idiot. Um, and but the like the real clocks are just has this very rigid sort of thing, which is in that one second, someone died. It's over. Like that was their that was theirs, that was their last one. Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_00

And you'll know this more than most people because of what you do for a living, and you've experienced it, I've experienced it. People will try to steal that from you. And you gotta be. I tell my daughters this, you gotta be very careful who you give your time to. It's very special. It's the most important thing that you have as a human being. Yeah, and all of ours is different. It's true, and I take nobody's time for granted. That's why today I take show I'm on the way, he's like, no rush, and I'm like, no, no, no, I'm gonna be there. I'm not you call me a lot of things, you ain't gonna call me late. Yeah, not gonna fuck off with nobody's time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's it's a crazy, it's a crazy, and it's true. It's like my I think my wife will always say, It's okay to say no, AJ. Yeah, it's okay to say no. Absolutely. And I I've I've I've done that more so than now because just how important it is to be you know, be at home, be with my family, and and you know, what COVID did was the biggest blessing. Is you know, COVID was horrible, but there was one thing that I hadn't got to do yet, and it's not a poor me thing, because I'm very lucky and very blessed that I was you know, my career is being the way that it was and is, but I was working all the time. I'd get up, gone, I'd have kids, would I see them sleeping, and I'd leave when they're sleeping. And that was okay because I was doing my dream. When COVID happened, I didn't realize one, how hard it was for my wife, like how what she had to deal with. I had no clue. And two, like just the daily routine, and then I was like, holy shit, like just the chaos, and then I was like, I fucking love this, I'm gonna get to be a kid again, and this, and it wasn't just like, hey, the weekend, and like, because then I'd have pressed, or it'd have this, or have to be going I'd be like, I got baby, I got like, and I was like COVID happened in my mind. God was like, hey man, you're never gonna get this moment with your kids again. Yeah, you need to slow the fuck down and focus on this. And it was the best fucking thing, as horrible as it was, it was one of the best things because I got to be there for like my son's first step. I got to my the twins, like my me and my wife, like it was just we got to hang out, like and just do things. We tried, we tried homeschooling, it was fucking horrible, but we tried. I can't, I'm I was the worst student. My my daughter was two and it or uh uh in grade two, and she's asked me about math. I'm like, you gotta talk to your mom. Well, I cannot figure out this stuff here. Divide by what? I'm like, you know, but that was like like but it was so beautiful because we got to we were this little unit for the first time ever in our lives because we're so busy doing the things that we were, you know, and we were like, and we were missing this like sitting down and having dinner together.

SPEAKER_00

That's big, man.

SPEAKER_02

It is, and my dad was a stickler that he's like, we will we didn't have cell phones back then, we didn't have anything. Um my neighbor had this really cool uh like plug-in phone. He had a LeBair Chrysler LeBairn, and he had like one of those phones that plugged in. You know, it was like he looked like Michael Douglas from Wall Street, remember with that big thing? And my mother's like, he's got to be a drug dealer. It was like I was always phone. But uh yeah, it was just it was just uh I lost my train of thought, but yeah, um it was about time with fame. My dad, my dad always was like, We sit down, dinner, dinner, sit down and catch up and talk and do those things. And those things, that was a a really beautiful thing within that. Was that something with with you in your life in your family? Did you well?

SPEAKER_00

My dad worked a lot, man. And uh, you know, as a young man, you know, he you know, he worked on a golf course and he was a superintendent and he was never home. When he was home, it was for a few minutes. You know, we'd sleep at night, we'd we'd go and play sports in the dark for a few minutes. He'd give us as much of his time as he could, but he was up again the next morning. He was a hundred hours a week. But I've realized like with my tour, I've been touring non-stop since since COVID and with post-traumatic purpose with what I'm doing now with first responders. And this is the first year I actually had to start telling people no. My schedule is so fucking busy that I actually I cost myself a lot of work this year. I'm only doing 15 tour dates where I was doing 90 back in the year.

SPEAKER_06

You were doing 90?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so in 2020, I started off with 90, then it went and I started scaling them back, scaling them back. Last year was my slowest year. Now it was 35 tour dates, and that was still too much. And so I told my wife, I said, look, I gotta cut this in half. So I'm only doing 15 this year. And the reason is so I can be home with family because the older I get, I'm realizing I'm like, dude, I'm not getting any of this time back. No, it's not back, you know, and so every day I drop my I drop my daughter off the show.

SPEAKER_02

That's my favorite thing to do. That's right, that's what I do.

SPEAKER_00

Then I go to Planet Fitness and walk around like an old fat man. And I go get a protein shake, or I go to Big Bad Breakfast and get a bunch of grits and eggs. There you go. Then I come hang out over here, and then I'll go play basketball with my daughter, and it's like people don't understand, man. They spend so much of their life working.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I get it. We have to work. But that that smarter versus harder thing is real.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It really is. And when you when you get to our age, I don't know how old you are, but imagine 49. 49. So you're right there with me.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Dude, I I don't I don't want to be a 60-year-old still going to work every day. I want to be home with my kids.

SPEAKER_02

And and the crazy thing too, it's it's life, you know, right when things are you're just like, oh, I think this is hunky dory. Everything flips on his head. Absolutely. You know, and you've been through that to the most extreme, you know. It'll turn upside down. It turns upside down. And you know, you going back to being a firefighter and then going through that moment, it was in the date in 2017. Uh um 2000.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you're talking about the Sophie Superstar? Yeah, that was 2007. 2007.

SPEAKER_02

Um to think like that moment there, and the path you're on here, and the gift that you're giving to these things, it's like this something that happened to you that we'll get into that was so tragic and so horrific. And I remember I remember hearing about this. But then what you've been able to do with that, and then to have 90 tour days and be so connected to people and people and selling out like arenas and rooms and like in like massive crowds and and connecting with them. You know, there's one of the things that my mom we I grew up in a my parents were in a treatment facility for kids, and one of the things that I heard you say, but it was similar to what my mom said was if they're laughing, they're listening. Right? And you got people to laugh, you know? Yeah. So let's go, let's so the audience is is not um confused about it. Let's go back to you being a firefighter and walking up to the the day that everything happened. If you can give some context of of what we're about to talk about.

SPEAKER_00

Um, yeah, so I don't really get into the that fire anymore. I've told that story. You don't have to, yeah. So but I can just tell you, like in OC June 18th, 2007. Yeah, we had it we had a warehouse fire, it killed nine of our guys. I was on the body recovery team that day. That's about the extent of what I talk about around the country now because when I look at my life, honestly, my life is more than just that moment. I love that, dude.

SPEAKER_02

You know what that's fucking fucking A man. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it I mean it has to be that way, right? Because I think so many people they tie their identity to one thing, yeah, and they become it's in their rear view mirror. Yeah, and with me, it's like look, I've learned through a an a lifetime of bad shit that if you dwell on any one thing for too long, you're gonna become that thing, and it's just gonna fucking depress you. So, what I what I decided to do with a lifetime of bad shit is to learn from it. And I realize I can't give it back, and I would give more than anything. That's why I don't compare. Like when I talk to people and I hear, I'll hear people tell, you know, war stories, whether they're cops or firemen, they'll tell their war stories or actual veterans. They sit there and they compare and they're pointing at fingers. I'm all they're trying to do is big dick each other. Yeah, they're like, my dick's bigger than yours. And I'm not in a dick measuring contest anymore. I just don't care. I'm a solid six and a half. Yeah, well, I'm a half inch short of you. Yeah, but I got foreskin, so it's cheap.

SPEAKER_02

I'm the real deal.

SPEAKER_00

Um my whole thing is uh you fucked me up with a but my whole thing is like as I become older and more mature, I realize my journey's been my journey. And I'm not trying to compare it to anybody's and I'm not trying to put it above anybody's because somebody out there always has more of a story than you have. I'm just trying to learn from my own and teach anybody that's willing to learn from their story how we can like use these moments to become better.

SPEAKER_02

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SPEAKER_00

Well, it's a really complex story. I mean, and it takes a long time to get to that point because the way I got to doing what I do is by total accident. I never set out to do this, I never set out to speak about mental health.

SPEAKER_02

Isn't it crazy though? How life works?

SPEAKER_00

It's yeah, you have to every plan that you plan for never works out. That's why I tell people when bad things happen, it sucks in the moment. And you you look, have your pity parties and all that, but you gotta fucking move on. Yeah, and I was telling you earlier, like I'd give anything to have all the people that I've lost and to not have seen all the shit that I've seen. I'd give anything to go and be one of these people that live in our town that have lived their life in a bubble and they think the world is great because I hate some of the shit that I carry with me. I hate a lot of it, man, and that's what keeps me up at night, and that's what keeps me in constant conflict with people is because my life has been shaped by a lot of that stuff.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I'd love to just be a normal dude, right? But I can't. So what I try to do is learn from it. Yeah. So to get to your point, how I got to doing mental health and talking about post-traumatic purpose. I actually used to do stand-up comedy professionally, and I did it for 12 or 13 years. I started doing it when I was a firefighter before our fire, and we lost those guys. And I used to spend a lot of time in LA, used to spend a lot of time in New York, I spent time overseas on comedy tours. Oh, it's fucking stupid, right?

SPEAKER_02

And it's that is the craziest thing to do ever is get up and tell jokes. What I don't care what like the buddies, like, I'm a funny guy, I'm gonna get up there. It is different, and it is a fucking art form. It's an art. And you like, and the people that like can like crush it, or it's just it's so um, I have so much respect. Something I could never do. Yeah, I could never do. It's so, and it's it's you have that the I mean you you you know this, but it's at that you're doing this routine and working it out each night, and you will you have to fail to find out what's funny.

SPEAKER_00

Doing doing stand-up comedy was more scary than putting your hands on a dude that has a gun that wants to kill you 100%. Yeah, 100%. I know from personal experience. Stand-up comedy is the scariest fucking thing I've ever done. And then when you once you do it several times and you get used to the repetition of it and you do it, and you then and now it becomes a drug and you need it because anybody that's ever done dangerous shit in their life, the first thing they'll tell you is they want to do more dangerous shit because it makes you feel alive. Well, being a Marine, a cop, and a firefighter back when I was doing comedy, there was none of that out there. So I got really lucky early on in my career, had a couple of quick breaks that happened for me. What was your your like your open what your open favorite opening of your of your act? I was always different, yeah. Yeah, I was just always a ball buster. So what I would do is I'd fuck with people, I'd stand off the side of the stage, I'd look at a crowd, I'd fuck with somebody's shirt. Man, your shirt looks like some goddamn holiday and curtains. Some of that you just yeah, you know, and it was just that ball breaking firehouse humor that I would bring. And I'd fuck with this dude, I'd fuck with this girl. I mean, and I would just have fun. And you were enjoying it. 100%. But then I would get into the joke aspect of it and talking about my life and being from South Carolina, we're ranked, we're ranked 48th in education, third in domestic violence. We literally beat the sense out of it.

SPEAKER_02

So you told like you, you like the Richard Pryor told a big story, and and and like yeah, like I that's my favorite type of thing. You bring him in on a journey that's a that that is a and that's some of the toughest type of comedy because you gotta we gotta they gotta come on that ride with you, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And that's what you know, that's what you do. So when I did that, um, it went really well for me. I had some really cool shit happen with comedy. I'm not gonna lie. I wasn't a bar room comedian that never got to do anything. I got to work, and I don't name drop, but I got to work with a lot of really yeah important comedians. That's badass. It was it was dope, and I got to see like kind of behind the curtain, yeah, but I never wanted to be that guy either. I never wanted to be, I knew I wanted more. And so in 2020, when COVID happened, I had a full 43-week schedule, got wiped out because all the comedy clubs shut around the country. That's right, yeah. But I was already talking about mental health here and there. I had already done it a few times because people invited me to come talk about it. So I decided I was like, man, fuck it, I'll switch gears. I wrote my book, Create Your Own Light. It came out in May of 2020, and literally the next month my calendar was full of speaking dates just to come talk to agencies around the country on mental health. That's how I got started.

SPEAKER_06

Wow.

SPEAKER_02

Nuts. And then was your wife like, was she like, what are you doing? Or was it like a whole No, she was in it.

SPEAKER_00

She was, yeah. I told her I was like, Look, I'm just gonna I said, when I can get enough dates to replace my comedy dates, I'm never going back to comedy because I was experiencing it. I was on the tail end of my career with comedy. I was experiencing where you could talk about your dick and balls and it was funny, and then you got to a point where you could talk about your dick and balls and now it's offensive. Yeah, and it wasn't fun for me. Yeah, because I was that dude, I was fun. I was like, I want to put my nuts in your face and I want to teabag you like we did at the firehouse. And then this culture started shifting.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, those firemen, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But then it started shifting where now those firemen get complaints. And I'm like, I I wouldn't fit in in today's fire, fire department. Yeah. But my point is I got these speaking dates and we started doing training rooms around the country, just doing little small speaking engagements. And then I realized we're leaving a lot of people out because I was just going to a fire department, or I was just going to a police department. Then we opened it up to everybody police, fire, corrections, hospital workers, dispatchers, veterans, family members, mental health professionals. All these people started coming, man. We started selling out venues all over the country. It was a complete accident.

SPEAKER_02

Did you have a moment that you connected with one person that really emotionally got you that like hit you like, oh wow, I'm what I'm doing, there's there's something to this, like that that that stopped you in your tracks. You're like, holy shit, like I I I I've just affected or I I've helped somebody in a way.

SPEAKER_00

Homie, this happens every time I go out. And I'm not saying it's to pat my back. This is why I know the difference. Because the first time I ever talked about mental health was in 2016, and it was in front of 300 firefighters in South Florida. All right. I was I was doing dick jokes back then at comedy clubs. Yeah. And now somebody asked me to come talk about suicide because I had I I tried to take my life one time, twice actually. Um, and they wanted to talk about that, and they wanted to talk about my journey with mental health. And here I was thinking, oh, I can do this because I'm on stage every night joking, and people don't scare me. So I went on stage and And when I got honest about what I had really experienced in my life, it only took five minutes, dude. And I was booger crying on stage in front of all these men. Yeah. And I had another grown man. This is where I knew something was going on. I had another grown man come over and hug me on the stage. And while I was sobbing in his shirt, this never happened before. He's like, he just whispered in my ear, he's like, I got you, bro.

SPEAKER_06

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

And I knew he had me. Yeah. And it was one of the most powerful moments of my life. Because as a grown man who is in all these different hardened environments, I've never had another man hug me and mean it and tell me he's got me. Yeah. Um I turned around, the whole fucking place erupted standing ovation. And I barely even said anything other than a little bit of personal stuff.

SPEAKER_02

And you just were being vulnerable, bro. And just opened up.

SPEAKER_00

Afterwards, I must have been in that lobby for two or three hours. Dudes that look like me, walk like me, talk like me coming up, and they're like, Thank you, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Dude, that's right.

SPEAKER_00

And it changed my life.

SPEAKER_02

A hundred percent. That's purpose. That's your that's it's like, what are you doing in life? And it's so funny, in in what your path has been, it's always been a life of service, but yet it's been tied to political, like you didn't do this right, did check this box, how's your thing? But but this is to your beat of your own drum, yeah, and setting and set whether it's 90 shows or 30 shows or whatever it is, but it within those, knowing that you're gonna walk in a room and love it and affect somebody in that way, dude. I mean, not many people do you realize that not many people get to do that?

SPEAKER_00

So I'll I tell people all the time, I know that I'm one of the most blessed people in the world. Because look, I got it, I got an amazing wife, I got two amazing daughters, I got a family that loves me, and I get to do we're friends now. We're friends now. That gives me one. I get to do this. Is the coolest part of what I what I get to tell people eight billion people on this earth. There's one person that gets to do what I do. Yeah, that's it. There's not a human being out there that does what I do.

SPEAKER_02

My mom she had this thing in her in her office that said you can make all the money in the world and die, and it means nothing. You make a difference in a child's life, it means everything. Everything. So it's so true. It's and you don't know when you're gonna it could be just saying good morning to somebody. Okay, how you or hold like helping them like do doing an act of kindness, and that person might be in a dark place and they just connected with someone. It's like and it's an amazing those little things that you'll just randomly do, or you getting up a stage, and it's a word that they held on to that you said and it hit them, you know. And it's it's I just wish more people did that to try and connect. And what's crazy is you kind of by default of COVID, you know, I was talking about COVID, what the good it did for me with my family, and then COVID, you know, the sidestep that you did, and we're like, hey, I'm gonna go this way, not knowing that you you didn't know that was gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00

No, I didn't. And you know, in 2016, after I got off stage when I was telling you about those 300 firefighters, I called my wife from South Florida and I said, Hey, if I ever get to a point where I can do more talking about mental health more than I can do comedy, I'm gonna quit comedy. And she's like, You're fucking crazy because comedy was my bread and butter. Yeah, and there came a point in 2020 when that happens. COVID, it's almost like COVID had to happen for me to do it. I do because all the comedy clubs shut down. But you know who didn't shut down? Police and fire departments, and they were craving mental health information because it became such a hot topic because you know, and I was the only guy at the time I wrote a book about it, and dudes like us didn't talk about that shit. Yeah, and when I did, man, the emails I mean, I can't tell you, man, we get 200 something requests a week. I can't keep up with it. Yeah, and there's still people when I say I'm the only guy doing what I do in event form. Now, there's people that speak at conferences, but there's nobody on this planet that has mental health events that is selling out thousand. And when I say sell out, I mean a lot of these are free. Yeah, yeah, but a thousand people there in attendance waiting in the fucking cold.

SPEAKER_02

When you sell out, you sell out people. You tell it, tell out, you know, you know, some of them aren't.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, but I don't have control over that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but the the the thing is, is like people will go and they'll sell wolf tickets and snake oil and charge, you know, fucking people feel like they're because they spent$2,000 or$10,000 to go to it and buy into this fucking bullshit thing that that it's because they spent this money. Yeah. But the messenger is bullshit. Yeah, you know, it's all smoke and mirrors and it's all things. But when someone gets up there and like, and I think because your journey started from such a pure state of and you again, you didn't know that was gonna happen. No, I had no idea. You know, and we didn't set out for that. And if you and when you stay true to that honesty and you connect with people in that, that's just being a good human being.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it goes back to what you said with the snake hole shit. So I think what happened is there's a lot of people trying to do mental health things, and granted, we need all the help we can get, but there's you got a lot of bullshit salesmen out there too. And they don't they don't have the story or the personality. There's always an angle, yeah, and that drives me nuts. And I see it all the time, and I get dudes like, hey man, I want to do what you do, and I'm like, Well, then just do it because nobody taught me how to do this. I think with what I do and why it works so well is because I still drop motherfuckers shit, goddamns. I'm me. I don't try to pretend to be something I'm not, and I go up there and I have flaws, but I know dudes, man, they'll go out and speak in three-piece suits to dudes wearing t-shirts and cowboy boots. Nobody wants to hear the hero story.

SPEAKER_02

Instantly fucking disconnected from nobody wants to hear the hero story. They don't they want to they want why was I talk I talked about this before, but why was John McClain one of the greatest characters ever in Die Hard? That he was just one of the boys. He was he had a little a little pudgy, he has his wife beat her on, he had socks, he's rubbed in, and he fucking all he wanted to do was fix his marriage and fucking get back together. That's all he kicked ass, and he's just this flawed guy, he's like, come to California, blah blah blah. Like, but he was just a dude, you know, and when you're that thing and there's no suit and all this fucking garbage that people do, it's like for people that think that they need that, that that's their that's their light, that oh it's that's no no people see through that, and I don't think they understand it because there's dudes out there we're good, we're good, we're good.

SPEAKER_00

There's dudes out there that I see, man, they're struggling in the speaking world, and they're they're trying to get to the next level, but what they don't understand is it's as simple as just being real and stop putting on a fucking act. I see it all the time, yeah. And it doesn't have to be as hard as they make it.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I think too, if you're a first responder, you're bait everything's based in you know milliseconds of truth. Like you you you're you're used to having to be honest in a very quick moment and make decisions in those things. If you're false in those, there's a consequence, you're gonna die. If you're on stage and you're you're not connected, you're in a room full of people that know what fucking honesty and truth is in, it's a very pure state. So you cannot bullshit these people.

SPEAKER_00

You know what one of the coolest things is, just like you said, I don't even have the answers. Yeah, and I tell people that we're all just winging it, bro. Bro, they still show up by the thousands to a guy that doesn't even have the answers. I have awareness, I have honesty to give. That's that's it. Yeah, nothing's churched up, nothing's embellished, it's just this.

SPEAKER_02

I went on a on a speaking church, I went on a hike um with my the the guys from my church, and I did not want to go. My buddy was like, You gotta you, this would be good for you. I'm like, I think I don't want to go. I'm like, and I try I try to get out of it a hundred times, and I ended up going. And I was like, this is gonna be weird. Y'all hike broke back? Where'd y'all go? Yeah, so it was completely broke away. No, we went up some in North Carolina, but it was like like 20 guys, I didn't know anybody, and it we were just gonna go up, and this is my journey sort of getting back into uh into my faith, and I didn't know what to expect, and I was like, this is so weird. Why am I here? Why am I here? Why am I here? And then all of a sudden people started talking, and then I realized all these guys, some super successful, some um just going through whatever they're going in their life. And I realized all these guys are just fucking winging it, they're just trying to figure out they don't they're just dudes, right? They're just trying to, they're doing the best that they fucking can. I was like, you're just like me. Yeah, you're just you're trying to figure it out too. I was like, holy shit, did we just become best friends? Like you're like this, because there's all this bravado, like, yeah, everything's good, man. Good. And you're like, I'm fucking terrified, dude. I don't know what's gonna happen. And and when I saw that, I was like, man, holy and it just brought me down, it gave me this breath of fresh air. It didn't, it didn't um uh fix the the problems that I had to work at, but it made me feel like like other dudes were going through the same thing, and it was a sense of community of like you, you know, like that I we called 3M buddy, like hey man, are you gonna you want you to you need to talk this out that because that wheel's spinning in my head, and I just need someone to say, hey man, just take a breath, you're good. Let's talk it out, dude. Okay, you you feel better? Yeah, thanks, man. And that's because someone we're we're in a society where men push it down, push it down, adapt, overcome. Don't fucking talk, but but don't mend don't crap. You figure it out, you're forgetting it. Yeah, yeah, just don't show things, especially in like the military with the guys that I worked with, it was very much like um don't complain. Yeah, you get hurt, suck it up, and and because you'll let your team down. Yeah, and they're like later in life, he blew his brains out, and they're like, he didn't show any signs.

SPEAKER_00

It's like, motherfucker, you buried it all.

SPEAKER_02

You told him not to do those things, which is crazy. What so what's next for you? What like where what's happening with you and your like the tours?

SPEAKER_00

The yeah, man. Um, I'm I don't have a uh a plan anymore. I let all that go. And I've just been on this wonderful journey doing what I do and filling tour dates and just enjoying my family. I tell you the most the thing that I'm most passionate about right now in my life, it's my daughter's basketball. That's the best thing. They've both been playing since they were four. I can't get enough of it. They play at a very high level. They're 10 and 12 now. They're in competitive leagues, they're in their school teams, and it's just, man, when they come home, my daughters love basketball so much. It's not I have to go push them to play. They come home and they push me off the couch. Like daddy come and I'm like, fuck, I'm hurting. But I go out there and I just can't wait for them to get home every day, man. So I have this. The only plan I have in life now is when they're old enough, when they get to high school, I'm done. I'm completely done, and I'm going on every single road game, and I'm going every single home game, and I'm going to take as much time as I can with them and just enjoy the shit out of it.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm not going to worry about money ever again. I'm just going to fill my cup with love. Yeah. If the money runs out, it runs out. Look, as long as I got lips, I can suck dick on the side of my mouth.

SPEAKER_02

I can make money, baby. You don't have to be able to do that. Hey, man, sucking cup for wooden nickels, man. That's the best thing. Let's rule. You know, um, will you come back again and hang out on the show? Yeah, absolutely. Dude, man, I'm really it's such an honor to have you come on. This is like for our first show. I think we kicked it off right, man. This is we we I didn't know where this was gonna go, but it was fucking awesome, bro. And I'm I'm uh I uh yeah, I'd love to have you back, man. Anytime you want to come by and just hang out, or just you don't even have to be on the podcast. Just fucking shoot the big bed of breakfast. There I I'm now now seeing like another. I appreciate it, man. Thank you so much for coming, man. This this was really fun, man. Sean, wasn't that fucking good?

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That was great.

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That was fucking great. What's that? You did? I cried. How about what? I don't remember it. What the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah, what you what you fool, you pussy. That's our first episode in the books, man. Thanks for watching. Yeah, thank you, man. God bless. If you or a loved one have been affected by this podcast in any way, shape, or form, you might be eligible for some financial compensation. I don't know how, I don't know where. But hit that button and we'll find out. Boom. Boom. I can time that out. That's people subscribing. It's not my phone in my pocket, huh? It would never be that unprofessional. The AJ Buckley Show is not responsible for any financial compensation.